HI THERE THANKS FOR THE INFO DONT MIND ME ASKING WHERE DID YOU GET YOU BOOK PLS
[Edited on 14/8/10 by KECHICHE]
Ok.let's start here.
Now, your donor car.
The vast majority of the running gear will be useful to you for building an IRS car.
The engine is probably of little use, but you can keep the gearbox and bolt a zetec up to it. As you probably know, the twin cam in your Sierra
isn't even closely related to a zetec.
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Originally posted by zilspeed
Ok.let's start here.
the engine is less than desirable although its a twin cam its less tuneable than the Pinto.
If you go the zetec route, the starter from this engine is a must for the zetec to type nine gearbox
As above, use everything but ditch the engine for a zetec.
Andy
As well as the shift key, put some detail in the thread title!
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Originally posted by zilspeed
The engine is probably of little use, but you can keep the gearbox and bolt a zetec up to it.
Your building a Locost and you have a Sierra as a donor.
In my book it's a very good start, you can build the whole car with what you have ( engine included) get it on the road quite quickly and play
around with engine upgrades and the associated costs later.
Do check that the Locost plans are for a Sierra IRS and not a live axle Escort.
That said nodding a live axle chassis for DeDion or IRS is not a big job.
THANKS GUYS VERY GOOD INFO IM JUST NEW TO THE WHOLE THINK TRYING TO GET SOME INFO WHILE IM GOING ALLONG,MESSAGE FOR SNAPPER PLS WHERE DID YOU GET YOUR BOOK IF YOU DONT MIND ME ASKING CHEERS ALL
In all seriousness, using block capitals is not easy on the eye and some people consider it to be shouting.
It is polite to turn the caps lock off if you wouldn't mind.
Cheers
Mooky
cap lock off sorry about that
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Originally posted by KECHICHE
cap lock off sorry about that
i just dont know what is in the book as info wise but will that help me building the car from scratch,the only think that i could not get is the wishbone front and rear
WELL I HAVE A COPY OF.... (only joking) 
Uncle Rons book that im never going to use again. Besides, i took a scan of the pages for my own benefit of course, so all the pages are loose and
could do with going into a folder.
Live axle is a good start. Some prefer this as it is more primitive and exciting to control at full chat. IRS is obviously much better for turning
and twisties, so it depends on whether you want to drag race or track day the car at the end.
any chance i can grab a copy of you pls
one more think before i go pls ,the zetec engine it is front wheel drive,so by fitting a sierra gear box will that converter to a rear wheel drive ? sorry im not good with mechanic,i want to build the car but i have to get the parts before i ask my mate to help,thanks
The zetec from an escort or mondeo will bolt straight onto a type 9 or the mt75 that you have.Turning a fwd engine into a rwd engine.You will need a
1.8 flywheel and clutch with a ct133 release bearing.
You use the starter motor from your twincam.
Andy
Its a huge file, but i can post you the book itself if you like for the cost of postage?
"I'm not sure I'd bother getting the original book- really isn't that much detail in there.... Not sure about the new one, suspect
it's a fair bit better..."
My one <<<< was built from book one edition one it just helps if you can read, and wright,
And measure twice cut once hahahaha
and to the the OP, halfords sell the books
Steve
And please don't edit your original question away as people who read this thread now have no idea what it's on about.
Halfords sell the books
If you go to the front page of this forum you can see the book on the right hand side.....
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Originally posted by mark chandler
Halfords sell the books
Ford Escort 1.8 Zetec Engine
hi guys will the ford sierra gearbox run with this engine as a rear wheel drive and what mod will i need to do if i have to cheers all.
Yes,the sierra box will bolt straight onto this engine. Use a 23 spline 220mm clutch and cover from a Mondeo 1.8 and a ct133 Capri release bearing.
You will need to make suitable engine mounts to fit your chassis and a mount for the alternator but it will all come together nicely.
This has been done many times before and is common practice.
Andy
thanks again guys,
sorry to be a pain,im trying to find different ways to get a good engine thats way im asking you guys,another one for you ford duratec v6 it is a fwd
will it go with sierra type 9 gearbox to run rwd?cheers
V6 Duratec is a nice engine but the bolt pattern for the gearbox is different, the Granada Cosworth V6 would be an easier fit.
There are many engines in Locosts so no hard and fast rules however most people go for straight 4 pot engines, all ally being the favourite.
The idea is to get the engine as far back as possible and use a light engine thus having even front to rear weight distribution. Front heavy is not so
good in a locost
[Edited on 18/8/10 by snapper]
Thanks for that mate,as much is i wanted to build this car its getting to complicated from the engine side and what it come with it,getting the wright
bits its the problem.so hard to get hold of ,its gonna take me a long time,never mind ill have look,
cheers again.
Alex
Hi all the sierra engine gone cant use it now smoke every where,looked at the 2l zetec out of a 99 mondeo,witch gear box will be good to suit this to run rear wheel drive?ive been told the mt75 will work but wish one is it the transit or the ford 4x4 sapphire ? i dont know anybody know? thanks
pls have a read at my question,thanks
The type 9 or mt75 from a 2wd sierra will fit straight onto a zetec s engine.It doesnt get any easier to bolt together.
As said before any zetec from an escort or mondeo will be great.
Beware though,a zetec se engine from a fiesta or focus will need a different bellhousing as the bolt pattern is different.
Andy
Thanks Andy
Hi there final decission made now got the ford sapphire 2l twincam engine and the gearbox mt57 could someone pls tell me what rear axle,propshaft,sterring rack and collum should i use? cheers
Sorry the gear box is the mt75
any answers gyus ?cheers
Hi evryone final decission made now got the ford sapphire 2l twincam engine with the gearbox mt75 could someone pls tell me what rear axle,propshaft,sterring rack and columm should i use? cheers
wow, my English is bad, but I had to read all off it to understand what this is about.
Building a Locost is not everything buying.
You have to sort things out, so easy going.
I would advise you to hang around for sometime and then you deside if you go on.
I bought the "orange" book from the tiger avon and "uncle Ron's all green" locost-book.
Forget the 250 pounds and be prepared for 5000 or more.
Back to you last question:
If you using that engine IMO your answers is allready stated, If it is the 2.0 litre DOHC you must know that it is a higher engine, so heading for
some problems extra.
I'm using it.
- engine mounted in angle drop 3,5 degree forward, diff also (want no vebrations)
- shortened sump
- handmade intake for EFI
- you will need wider gearbox-bay for the MT75, so wider chassis is adviseble.
Maybe you can buy that new LOCOST book from Chris Gibbs, it's based on the Sierra/sapphire
Your propshaft must be made, or maybe some kitcar manufacturer can deliver one. (your leg will be around aprox. 300 mm, so go for quality!)
The differential option would be the sierra with IRS or DION.
Try search almost everything is mentioned.
Good luck,
[Edited on 3/9/10 by t.j.]
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Originally posted by t.j.
, my English is bad,
Hi thanks for taking your time and answering my question,
actually your english is pretty good we on the same boat i am not english either.
an way let me tell you some more i do have the chassis allready build by somebody else and the gear box it is a bit tight,so the guy that i bought the
engine and gear of he sad i can fit a mk1 or 2 escort 1.8 axle and steering rack /columm,what do you think will it work?
Thanks again
Alex
Hi,
I don't know which chassis you're building.
If it is Uncle Ron's stick with the MK2 steering rack. You don't want any bumpsteer.
If you have a live-axle from a Escort you could mount that one. IMO you could go for IRS. But that's your choice.
You could take a look around on Flak's site. http://gtslocost.locostsites.co.uk/
grtz
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Originally posted by interestedparty
quote:
Originally posted by t.j.
, my English is bad,
No it isn't.
Stop fishing for compliments
So after 4 years around here my english is getting better. So I need a new quote....
not shure realy when i bought the chasis been told based on a locost.
thanks
Maybe you could measure it up and post some pictures. I'm sure someone can identify it.
Grtz.
hi guys can i regester this kit car that im building under the origenal registration number? i only bought the engine and gear box wiring loom engine
management and fuse box,ecu,cheers 
no. at best you would get age related registration plate - that is another registration pulled out of the bag by DVLA for the same year.
for example, say your donor registraion is L387DUX then the registration you would get would begin with L - the letter that denotes the year the car
is registered.
You will need to prove using a points system (again search as it has been asked) that you have used enough parts from the donor to do this, else you
get a Q registration plate.
The Q means MOT inspections more often than otherwise, if i have understood things. It makes it less desirable when it's time to sell. Am I correct?
hi guys how short the sump has to be for 2L d.o.h.c engine because it`s high im told i have shorten the sump? cheers
Chop the sump to the same level as the bottom of the bell housing.
I seriously wouldnt bother using the twin cam engine and find a zetec - the TC is rubbish - in all senses of the word. Or if you dont want to worry
about emissions get a 2l pinto, cheap, reliable and simple.
If its a locost based chassis then you have 2 choices when it comes to rear axle. An escort axle or de dion to use sierra parts. If you go for sierra
you will end up with a 4" wider track and need to match that at the front with wider wishbones and extensions for the steering rack (fit on the
track rods). Personally I would choose sierra as the parts are easier to get and theres a better choice of diff ratios.
David
hi thanks for taking ur time,
so if i go for the escort mk2 steering rack,columm and rear axle i should not to have to make any adjustement or mod to anything? cheers
would you please tell me what is the ratio of the escort mk2 axle? thanks
They vary - you'd need to take the back off the diff and look at the marking, or count some turns...
You will need to weld brackets to the escort axle casing for the trailing arms and panhard rod.
thanks again
sorry i keep asking too many question what would you recomend ?
i know the escort mk2 diff ratio is 3.89 and the sierra diff is 3.62 i just dont know wich on should i get.
cheers
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Originally posted by KECHICHE
thanks again
sorry i keep asking too many question what would you recomend ?
i know the escort mk2 diff ratio is 3.89 and the sierra diff is 3.62 i just dont know wich on should i get.
cheers