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Ringing cars in France
designer - 25/4/11 at 04:36 PM

I never knew that Robin Hoods were so good in 1979, 1980, and 1981

I bet these came from on here, and this bloke has 'somehow' got hold of some old log books!!!

Anybody recognise any of these?

1979 - http://www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/180146423.htm?ca=16_s

1980 - http://www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/191519119.htm?ca=16_s

Now this is a 2B

1981 - http://www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/186530654.htm?ca=16_s

And look at what he sells them at!!!!

[Edited on 25-4-11 by designer]


big_wasa - 25/4/11 at 04:41 PM

The green one is a Tiger Avon.


mookaloid - 25/4/11 at 04:44 PM

Tres belle


Humbug - 25/4/11 at 04:56 PM

Wow! - "MOTEUR FORD PINTO 2200 LITRES " = "2200 litre Ford Pinto engine"... that's one hell of a rebore


designer - 25/4/11 at 04:57 PM

1980 Tiger Avon, wonder if it's the prototype!!


Humbug - 25/4/11 at 05:04 PM

quote:
Originally posted by designer
1980 Tiger Avon, wonder if it's the prototype!!


Probably... also, it must have been when they were called Robin Hood


Triton - 25/4/11 at 05:11 PM

They are Triton wizard hat or witches tit whatever you fancy calling them and I never made any before 2004 so quite how the car is 1979 is garlic surprise indeed.......looks like a Locost to me anyway.


CRAIGR - 25/4/11 at 05:36 PM

Good luck to him.


Ninehigh - 25/4/11 at 07:24 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Triton
They are Triton wizard hat or witches tit whatever you fancy calling them


Aren't they beers?


John Bonnett - 26/4/11 at 05:21 AM

Does this mean that Robin Hood has passed homologation in France?

If that is their way of getting round the French red tape then good luck to them. At least it allows them to enjoy the kind of freedom and motoring that we over here take for granted.


designer - 26/4/11 at 09:41 AM

No.

Under French law a car MUST have a Certificate of Conformity from the manufacturer. The CofC costs thousands to obtain and can be had for newer Westfields/Caterhams but, for the norm, like myself and many others with a working mans car, it is impossible.

The other route is that 'classics' are allowed. Cars over 25 years old, either normal or kit, can just be re-registered as there were no real rules before then.

This bloke has bought these cars, has obviously a lot of log books and changed their identity to allow 'classic' status. It's like building a new kit, then changing the identity to match the 30 years old Dutton you have rusting at the bottom of the garden, then, of course, there is no IVA needed.

These cars are newer than mine, but date from, an alledged, 1979, 1980 and 1981.

He obviously has the resources as he is doing it all the time.

Here is his current list:

http://www.leboncoin.fr/boutique/573/toyscars.htm?ca=16_s


Doctor Derek Doctors - 26/4/11 at 12:47 PM

If the cars are safe and correctly built I can't see the problem. Serves governments right for trying to police the roads with static cameras that can only see how fast you are going.


designer - 30/4/11 at 06:08 PM

quote:

If the cars are safe and correctly built I can't see the problem



Neither can I, but it's illegal and who's to say the cars are safe and correctly built when they bypass the IVA, yet are OK for an MOT?


Doctor Derek Doctors - 30/4/11 at 11:11 PM

quote:
Originally posted by designer
quote:

If the cars are safe and correctly built I can't see the problem



Neither can I, but it's illegal and who's to say the cars are safe and correctly built when they bypass the IVA, yet are OK for an MOT?


Who's to say that a car that has passed an IVA or MOT is safe and legal? There are many, many deathtraps out there that have passed all the legal requirements


MikeFellows - 1/5/11 at 12:32 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Doctor Derek Doctors
quote:
Originally posted by designer
quote:

If the cars are safe and correctly built I can't see the problem



Neither can I, but it's illegal and who's to say the cars are safe and correctly built when they bypass the IVA, yet are OK for an MOT?


Who's to say that a car that has passed an IVA or MOT is safe and legal? There are many, many deathtraps out there that have passed all the legal requirements


why would the French care about IVA/SVA or MOT since its in France?


Mr Whippy - 1/5/11 at 03:33 AM

I'm sure the french have their own version of the MOT and on such simple cars it doesn't take much for a tester to assess the condition to be safe


cliftyhanger - 1/5/11 at 07:46 AM

quote:
Originally posted by designer
quote:

If the cars are safe and correctly built I can't see the problem



Neither can I, but it's illegal and who's to say the cars are safe and correctly built when they bypass the IVA, yet are OK for an MOT?


This is a serious point. Loads are very critical of the "ringed" cars, but it seems acceptable to IVA a car with an old pinto, then swap to a completely different engine, change stuff that was needed for the IVA and so in in the form of upgrades.

I think the saying about stones and living in greenhouses springs to mind.