great motor the s2000 is.
stu
Getting closer to buying my kit, in 2 mind between the MK Indy R and the GBS Zero. Both companies are fairly close to me (close enough to take a
random driver over on a saturday morning).
Which chassis do people think are best?
I am leaning towards car engined car (Honda S2000 engine) but do quite like the idea of a BEC.
Help me out guys!
i would personally go for the indy if those are your 2 options and the s2000 engine. mk have done a few s2000 cars. personally i went for the mnr with the same engine as i prefer it. if you need any info regarding the install feel free to ask.
hi there, i would go indy r over the zero, but i am biased in to the mk
great motor the s2000 is.
stu
Don't know much about the zero but I've just built an Mk and I wouldn't do it again nightmare customer services
Now after Its built I had so many barneys with them I can't even pick up the phone to order parts as they won't entertain me
So not much good really .. Having no aftersales service... And I am not the only one you has had loads of problems
There's quite a few guys on here that have had similar problems with them
Search the Mk forums topics
[Edited on 17/5/11 by noc231073]
MK Indy
great car and if you ever do sell it i would probably say resale value would be more?
but depends on your budget i guess and what you will use it for,
mk every day for track and occ road use
Visit GBS factory, speak with Richard and the guys in the workshop. Then visit MK and compare the two. Remember, they should want your money and
repeat business.
Customer service after you have got the kit is the most important thing.
gbs are the company who bought robin hood arent they? it was my understand their chassis' were pretty terrible, so definitely the mk. though i
would have a look at mnr or something from raw as there have been so many stories of terrible service from mk.
great choice on the s2000 motor btw. when you're ready, whack a supercharger on and you've got 350hp on standard internals 
As an owner of neither of them I would say that currently the GBS, The MK and the MNR appear to be the current 3 best cars out there.
Would be madness not to visit each factory or, go to a big show and see all three at the same place!
All of the above 3 have their pros and cons and it'll be hard to get a non-biased opinion on here.
Hope that helps,
James
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Originally posted by SeanStone
gbs are the company who bought robin hood arent they? it was my understand their chassis' were pretty terrible, so definitely the mk. though i would have a look at mnr or something from raw as there have been so many stories of terrible service from mk.
great choice on the s2000 motor btw. when you're ready, whack a supercharger on and you've got 350hp on standard internals
Indy R is a more technically advanced design than the Zero (inboard front suspension for one).
However, the Zero is probably a more cost effective build and a bit of time on chassis setup would make up the difference.
So, if it was me making the choice I'd choose between the Zero and Aries Locothingy (just to confuse the matter 
)
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Originally posted by SeanStone
gbs are the company who bought robin hood arent they? it was my understand their chassis' were pretty terrible, so definitely the mk.
that engine wont go in an aries chassis i dont think or any of the raw cars. its a big lump!
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Originally posted by MikeRJ
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Originally posted by SeanStone
gbs are the company who bought robin hood arent they? it was my understand their chassis' were pretty terrible, so definitely the mk.
Sadly this kind of thinking is going to take GBS a long time to shake off, despite selling a very decent kit
^^^^^^^^^ I quite agree.
Most of the basic chassis' available are much of a muchness, with a few fancy things like inboard suspension thrown in here and there.
The fact is that as long as there construction is decent and accurate, and the customer service is there, then I would make my choice based on price
just about every time. If I wanted to spend more money on something, I'd buy a second hand Caterham and not something perceived (but not
necessarily) of better quality.
The Zero looks great value and with time spent setting up the geometry, I'd defy most people to find a discernable difference between that and
any other se7en at the entry end of the market (in fact in back to back testing on track, we found my R1 Indy to have far more grip and better
handling than my mates very sorted S2 Lotus 7 Fireblade - because we spent an age with spirit levels, tape measues and string getting it set up just
right).
[Edited on 17/5/11 by StevieB]
It would have to be the indy for me,everytime.I have bought
two indy's,on both occasions and whenever i have called them,the
customer service was excellent.
Andy
Zero for me mate, nothing wrong with the chassis at all. it has been quite easy and fun to build. Alot of help form Richard and the crew. I have on several occasions just turned up at the factory and collected parts I need. So do visit them before you choose. Am in scunthorpe not too far from you, if you want to have a look at the zero, feel free. I have a zetec in mine.
Mk indy
and i have had dealings with robin hood/GBS aka richard hall 
Engine first and then choose a manufacturers chassis to house the bike engine. BEC all the way 
S2000 is a cracking engine but bang for bucks
the BEC will generally be cheaper.
Phil
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Originally posted by Hellfire
Engine first and then choose a manufacturers chassis to house the bike engine.
Phil
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Originally posted by franky
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Originally posted by Hellfire
Engine first and then choose a manufacturers chassis to house the bike engine.
Phil
He could fit a m3 engine for less than £1200, thats cheaper than a bike engine
nissan 200 sx turbo engine only cost me £400 to do the conversion
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Originally posted by Hellfire
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Originally posted by franky
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Originally posted by Hellfire
Engine first and then choose a manufacturers chassis to house the bike engine.
Phil
He could fit a m3 engine for less than £1200, thats cheaper than a bike engine
Depends which bike engine.....
Phil
by the time you fit a reverse box,power commander and clocks it still could be more^^^^ lol!
MK every time, i have known these People since 2001 and have built 2 indys, i have introduced at least 5 friends and all have had a very good
experience with the team i have visited them at random and they sent out for cakes and have always got time for a chat so in my personal experience
they are stars.
Now i would advise you to visit all these manufactures, all of us has a perticular thing that we like about these cars ie, the body fit, Chassis
design,welds, Triangulation, bang for buck, find out what floats your boat. Then talk to them all and see if you can work with them, and make your
decision from that.
Mk Indy For me remember you could go Indy as well the Indy R, the R is the more advanced design the Indy still a good handling car. Cant say anything for or against the Zero as had no dealings with them
CEC or BEC???
only joking.......
For more info from builders of the Zero pop along to the RHOCaR forums: www.RHOCaR.org
There's plenty of builders about who wouldn't mind showing you their build and even taking you for a run so you can feel what the chassis is
like.
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Originally posted by Alfa145
For more info from builders of the Zero pop along to the RHOCaR forums: www.RHOCaR.org
There's plenty of builders about who wouldn't mind showing you their build and even taking you for a run so you can feel what the chassis is like.
I would choose MK as a company and either the Indy or the Indy R too...
You ask which chassis is best.
there is probably more to it than just the chassis and as for which is "best" that depends on what your looking for, budget---resale--keep
forever--serious power etc....
my experiences of the following are:
MK
Been calling in for odd parts, for approx 5years, very helpful and informative.
wander in anytime. very hands on and all getting stuck in like they enjoy it.
Purchased
MK Seats
Scuttle
Floor mounted Pedal kit
Steering column mounting bracket kit
Seat belt mounts and plates
panhard rod
got them to weld steering column
Sierra steering wheel - Free!
GBS
Very helpful and 2 way conversation, large premises and more business like, front office etc..
Full sheet of Ali
rivets - Rich gave me the whole box they were using for mot much money.
Acrylic adhesive
ali seat runners
Exhaust
MNR
again very helpful and willing to show you round the place, marc is very experienced and has a racing background so this car probably has the edge in
that dept? and his dad is always bouncing about the place, great guys.
Body tub
front wings
rear lights
roll bar and back stays
my opinion? they all offer different things.
all round---MK
Value-------GBS
Quality-----MNR
it depends what you want!
IC
Some good advise above, just ring around them all and search out any issues.
Someone above said pick what type of engine you want first, which does make sense.
Customer support is so so important.
[Edited on 18/5/11 by franky]
I looked into all the kits availiable in the Derbyshire-Sheffeild(shire) area, test drove a few and did a lot of research.
Conclusion was that I would buy a Mac#1, such a great car and genuinely nice guys, after that it would have been an Aries. Neither MK or GBS impressed
me enough to want to buy a car.
In the end I built a Race Car and so didn't buy a kit but if I had it would have no doubt been a Mac#1, might be worth giving them a call and
giving them a visit (they are/were in Killamarsh just south of Sheffeild), I think it would certainly throw a third option into the mix.