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garage19 - 29/7/04 at 09:48 AM

Looks like we've upset someone?

This is a post I copied from the racecar forum? Does anyone know of the drawing in question?

Re: cosworth lsd
« Reply #6 on: July 26th, 2004, 1:34pm » | Reply with quote | Modify

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John, been trying to email you. I would be interested in chatting to you about your diff rebuild. Will you be running at Harewood this weekend? I might come along if I can tolerate non-participation.

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From my experiences of the locost builders site the very last thing you will get is decent opinion! However I could be bitter because one of the posters took pictures from my site, posted them up on the locost builders site and then the fellow posters proceeded to post their opinions of my suspension design in respect to how this is a very bad example of design (which when you consider I have a docorate in active suspension design.....).

Glen.


stephen_gusterson - 29/7/04 at 10:10 AM

there were prob a few doctorates involved in the design of the space shuttle.

not one of them realised a bit of foam could bring one down.

having a degree is one thing, having talent is another.

atb

steve


Viper - 29/7/04 at 10:14 AM

ooooh Steve someone rubbed you the wrong way this morning?


Cita - 29/7/04 at 10:42 AM

I cannot comment on the suspension doctorate guy but i do know that the building i'm working in is cluthered with engineers and one thing's for sure:talent is NOT delivered with the diploma.


phelpsa - 29/7/04 at 11:17 AM

I replied to that thread, told him to ask around on this site for peoples veiws on the Sierra 4x4 7" LSD as most of the IRS people are using one. I don't remember that picture at all.

Here is the link to that thread:

http://212.53.73.128/cgi/forums/YaBB.cgi?board=General_discussion&action=display&num=1090338154

Adam

[Edited on 29/7/04 by phelpsa]


James - 29/7/04 at 11:20 AM

What's the racecar forum address?

Thanks,
James

[Edited on 29/7/04 by James]


James - 29/7/04 at 11:26 AM

I can't find it now but if I remember correctly the thread in question...

I felt a bit guilty at the time as we did slag this guys work quite a bit. What I was worried about was that someone was gonna die! Among other things the bracket welding looked like it had been done through the chassis paint.

He wasn't a member at the time so I guess we fell into the trap of thinking it wouldn't get noticed- understandably he was a bit pissed!

It taught me a valuable lesson actually- a lot more people read this forum than it at first appears... so watch what you say!

James


phelpsa - 29/7/04 at 11:27 AM

http://www.racecar.co.uk then click on forum on the link bar.

Adam


stephen_gusterson - 29/7/04 at 12:57 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Viper
ooooh Steve someone rubbed you the wrong way this morning?


nope.

just my normal touch of realism.

Just gets me that people use degrees as a shield to supposedly make emselves shyteproof.

My wife had a psychology lecturer ethat had a PHD in 'the effect of mills and boone romance novels on womens lives'

ahem


The guy indeed could be a suspension expert, and we could all be know nothing dorks.


atb

steve



[Edited on 29/7/04 by stephen_gusterson]


Dick Axtell - 29/7/04 at 05:19 PM

quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
having a degree is one thing, having talent is another.

It ain't just a matter of having the degree etc., it's what you can do with it that counts.


bob - 29/7/04 at 06:13 PM

One of my best friends who attended a well known uni left with all sorts of degrees and diplomas,he is extremely clever and could hold up a jar of pickle and tell you the complete list of ingredients without reading the label.............problems start when he trys to open the jar

Anyhow if the guy didnt want opinions on his work he shouldnt have put them on the net


Mark Allanson - 29/7/04 at 06:34 PM

Expert, remember X is an unknown quantity and a sert is a drip under high pressure!


Peteff - 29/7/04 at 06:35 PM

I went for a job once and the interviewer asked me if I had a degree. I told him I had five. He said you're kidding aren't you? I told him he started it.
That Stephen Hawking's a clever bloke but he can't weld either. Sorry Stephen.


stephen_gusterson - 29/7/04 at 10:42 PM

if he made that wheelchair, its held up well over the years

atb

steve


David Jenkins - 30/7/04 at 07:18 AM

A technician friend of mine made a nice amount of pocket money teaching soldering to electronics students at Swansea University... they knew all the theory, but not a clue on circuit board design and construction. And that includes the lecturers!

David


theconrodkid - 30/7/04 at 09:02 AM

i used to work on a yts scheme,took a lead lamp to the electronics dept cos it didnt work,came back a week later,he didnt know why it didnt work,what hope have the students got?


Peteff - 30/7/04 at 09:59 AM

I said has the bulb gone, he said no it's still there.


marktigere1 - 30/7/04 at 10:45 AM

Worked as a kitchen porter once with a University Student who had four 'A''s at A-Level. (Maths, Further maths, Chemistry and Physics!!!!)

When asked by a chef to sweep the kitchen floor (a rather large kitchen as I recall), he was found on his hands and knees using a dustpan and brush

Probably on the stock exchange now deciding our futures


Ian Pearson - 30/7/04 at 12:24 PM

Seems to me that this site is blessed with an abundance of "experts"!!!


phelpsa - 30/7/04 at 02:32 PM

Hmm, the only big achievements i've got so far is a scholarship to Bradfield College.

Adam


JoelP - 30/7/04 at 02:43 PM

quote:
Originally posted by marktigere1
When asked by a chef to sweep the kitchen floor (a rather large kitchen as I recall), he was found on his hands and knees using a dustpan and brush



i did just that yesterday, sweeping out a customers yard with a crappy dustan and brush, i walked round the corner and there was a broom leant up! gutted but i found it quite funny anyway. I gotta degree in biochemistry and genetics too, but they never covered yard sweeping so i have an excuse!


stephen_gusterson - 30/7/04 at 03:09 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Ian Pearson
Seems to me that this site is blessed with an abundance of "experts"!!!


I would say we have a lot of

Qubes

QUalified
By
Experince




atb

steve


Hugh Jarce - 6/8/04 at 04:38 AM

I have turned away job applicants simply because they admitted having obtained degrees. I don't need people who think they know it all, I need people who do know it all.
From experience most graduates i have come across could not survive the holocaust. They should stick to writing papers about what they have gleaned and share them amongst themselves.


JoelP - 6/8/04 at 07:19 AM

well for every one you tell to wee off, just remember to thank them next time you pick up some medicine.

i know, i know... its mostly post grad research that does useful stuff, but they all started with a bog standard degree.

[Edited on 6/8/04 by JoelP]


ceebmoj - 6/8/04 at 07:22 AM

Hi,

I have a degree, not very body who has one deserves one and lets face it we all make mistakes time to time (think the jet boat thing that flipped, arean). Yes we tend to look to books for answers as opposed to having experience of every thing but the approach works.

Also what I learnt while doing my degree was not overly much about computing and electrical engineering (all though obviously some stuff has stayed in there) but that there are very few technical challenges that I can’t solve with a bit of research and also be reasonably confident will work (possibly not all that well)

And yes my soldering is not up to scratch but hay ho some day I will take the time to master the skill in the mean while I will worry about the welding.

Blake


David Jenkins - 6/8/04 at 07:59 AM

I worked for 25 years in telecommunications and computing without a degree (I did get a Full C&G Certificate in Telecommunications early on).

Then I got bored travelling back and forth on the train so I did an OU MSc! Now that IS hard when you haven't got a BSc, and you haven't studied for decades!

rgds,

David


Peteff - 6/8/04 at 09:24 AM

They don't do a Haynes' manual for them so I can't put it back together. Anybody got a good link for a cheap vcr. It seemed like a good idea at the time.


stephen_gusterson - 6/8/04 at 09:25 AM

tescos

usually less than 50 quid


James - 6/8/04 at 10:42 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Syd Bridge
I know a number of men with degrees, who work a good deal of their time in overalls.



I think you mean you know a number of men with d ung erees...


James


... on 2nd thoughts... it's only me that finds that funny isn't it...
Oh well, back to sleep!


pbura - 6/8/04 at 11:20 AM

This discussion reminds me of an old joke from Sanford and Son (US version of a Brit TV show):

Son (quitting the family junk business): I'm going down to the state employment office. I want a job where I can use my head AND my hands.

Father: Go on down there! They'll put a CAP on your head and a BROOM in your hands!


Pete


stephen_gusterson - 6/8/04 at 12:56 PM

sounds like 'steptoe and son' in the UK

over 25 years old now


quote:
Originally posted by pbura
This discussion reminds me of an old joke from Sanford and Son (US version of a Brit TV show):

Son (quitting the family junk business): I'm going down to the state employment office. I want a job where I can use my head AND my hands.

Father: Go on down there! They'll put a CAP on your head and a BROOM in your hands!


Pete


pbura - 6/8/04 at 01:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
sounds like 'steptoe and son' in the UK

over 25 years old now


Seems like yesterday, but what doesn't?

That was it! Over 30 years in fact. The US version had a black cast and was set in a ghetto district of Los Angeles. Redd Foxx was brilliant as the father, and the show still runs today.


ChrisJLW - 6/8/04 at 02:49 PM

Have a degree and MSc, but I'm very happy up to my armpits (and sometimes waist) in engine! Looking forward to learning to weld for my locost project. And improve my soldering!

Anyone know of a good place to learn to weld in the south? I know Alton college do a 6month course but that starts at the end of this year and I don't want to wait that long!


James - 6/8/04 at 05:23 PM

Don't know where you are in Hampshire but I go/went to Brooklands college.

Absolutely brilliant place and great instructors too.

I'll probably be back next term- want to learn Ali TIG welding and maybe arc too.

James


ChrisJLW - 6/8/04 at 06:03 PM

Liphook, just down the road. Will look into it, cheers James.

Chris