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Mr Whippy - 16/2/24 at 12:45 PM

It's certainly as quiet as quiet can be and quieter...

Is everyone asleep or no longer able to log in?

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Schrodinger - 16/2/24 at 02:15 PM

I keep logging in but there is not much happening.


jacko - 16/2/24 at 02:19 PM

That’s exactly what I have been saying with a post I posted about a week ago
Graham


coyoteboy - 16/2/24 at 03:49 PM

Has anyone contacted Luke or Chris to see if they can resolve the problem without forcing re-confirming. The effort involved in re-confirming is likely to be a very high barrier to anyone who doesn't frequent regularly.


Slater - 16/2/24 at 04:28 PM

Yes, it's scarily quiet on here these days, very concerning....


Mr Whippy - 16/2/24 at 07:26 PM

quote:
Originally posted by coyoteboy
Has anyone contacted Luke or Chris to see if they can resolve the problem without forcing re-confirming. The effort involved in re-confirming is likely to be a very high barrier to anyone who doesn't frequent regularly.


Nope, probably should


nick205 - 17/2/24 at 01:14 PM

Tis indeed quiet on here.

Having to reconfirm may have lost us a few. Be good to remove that issue.

Those still here seem to talk sense (IMHO).


bi22le - 17/2/24 at 04:08 PM

It was a right pain validating my email address. I just kept going round in circles with links not working.

In the end I tried another browser. A really shame as this forum was soooo good and had been brilliant for me.


christim - 17/2/24 at 11:27 PM

It seems like there aren't as many self builds going on any more either? Haynes forum too has always been quieter but is pretty much a (very useful) archive site now.
I know some say it's all about facebook pages now but tbh even there it doesn't seem like there's as much going on as there used to be

Also is it me or are there fewer cars about on the road? Few years ago I'd pass a car say every month or two on the road. I'm not sure I saw any last year.
(I'll be increasing the number...on the road this year for sure)


Slimy38 - 18/2/24 at 09:05 AM

quote:
Originally posted by christim
It seems like there aren't as many self builds going on any more either? Haynes forum too has always been quieter but is pretty much a (very useful) archive site now.
I know some say it's all about facebook pages now but tbh even there it doesn't seem like there's as much going on as there used to be

Also is it me or are there fewer cars about on the road? Few years ago I'd pass a car say every month or two on the road. I'm not sure I saw any last year.
(I'll be increasing the number...on the road this year for sure)


Haynes has been dead for a while, I'm sure the last post was a few years back. As you say it's a useful archive site though.

I have to agree with your last statement though, it was only a few years back when I'd regularly see a Seven 'something' or two on my journey. Admittedly my more recent driving requires motorways which are not the usual haunt of DIY cars. But driving through an average village in the summer usually revealed at least one car on someone's drive, getting attention from either a sponge or a spanner. The last time I saw something on the road was on the way to Malvern last year.


SteveWalker - 18/2/24 at 11:21 AM

I've seen a couple of 7s out and about in the last fortnight. Both passing through suburban areas. My own (if I get around to fixing the exhaust) will be having its MOT when the weather gets better.


JoelP - 18/2/24 at 04:07 PM

I'm picking mine up next week, so hopefully back in weekly use.

The forum is in gradual decline I guess. Once it gets quiet, people stop dropping past and out only gets worse. The recent crashes won't have helped. Loads of forums have died completely, such as difflock etc, so I guess we should be glad there's anything left at all.

Maybe have to start a few irl meet ups.


loggyboy - 18/2/24 at 08:25 PM

Ive only just bothered resending my email verification just been lurking for a few weeks debating on if it was worth visiting!


r1_pete - 21/2/24 at 12:16 PM

quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
Ive only just bothered resending my email verification just been lurking for a few weeks debating on if it was worth visiting!


Me too, seems to have been declining for a couple of years, dropped by round Christmas and got the re validate banner, couldn't be bothered then, just done it while waiting for and eye exam.....


turnipfarmer - 21/2/24 at 09:21 PM

I've had an email verification issue, but I found a way round it.

Ignore the message when it appears at logon, & try replying to a post on the forum - any one will do.
It won't let you, but the verification request it throws up then, seems to take a different route through the software.
A route that works! Maybe worth a try?


Mr Whippy - 21/2/24 at 09:37 PM

quote:
Originally posted by turnipfarmer
I've had an email verification issue, but I found a way round it.

Ignore the message when it appears at logon, & try replying to a post on the forum - any one will do.
It won't let you, but the verification request it throws up then, seems to take a different route through the software.
A route that works! Maybe worth a try?


ingenious


Shandylegs - 21/2/24 at 10:21 PM

As has been previously mentioned, when you get the validation email through, don’t click on the ‘validate’ - copy and paste the link into your browser and it will work.

I think others have hit the nail on the head - people aren’t building anymore, or not in the numbers that previously did. Although I still love the kit car ethos, I think there are a combination of factors.
- Although the quality is so much better than before, it’s a big financial commitment to build something that will only ever be a toy.
- Production cars are now super quick. Whereas your pinto powered locost was fairly quick 20 years ago, most hot hatches now seem to be running 300hp (as a minimum) and would embarrass most kit cars on the road.

Would love to hear others views/thoughts on this…


scudderfish - 22/2/24 at 08:45 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Shandylegs
- Production cars are now super quick. Whereas your pinto powered locost was fairly quick 20 years ago, most hot hatches now seem to be running 300hp (as a minimum) and would embarrass most kit cars on the road.

Would love to hear others views/thoughts on this…


My Kia Stinger is quicker than the first 4 interations of the Lambo Countach. A Kia!


MikeR - 22/2/24 at 11:37 AM

And to add to that, I think the quality of the roads had also changed. Far too many pot holes that a ton too just soaks up.


Mr Whippy - 22/2/24 at 11:59 AM

quote:
Originally posted by scudderfish
quote:
Originally posted by Shandylegs
- Production cars are now super quick. Whereas your pinto powered locost was fairly quick 20 years ago, most hot hatches now seem to be running 300hp (as a minimum) and would embarrass most kit cars on the road.

Would love to hear others views/thoughts on this…


My Kia Stinger is quicker than the first 4 interations of the Lambo Countach. A Kia!


I think most Tesla's would leave almost all 90's supercars way behind. Tbh I think the power figures from most of the newer EV's are totally stupid and much to fast for use on the road. I welcome mandatory speed limiters on cars, going on country roads is deadly now. A couple of weekends ago we went skiing and on the way there we were overtaken by a Range Rover passing us at a busy T-junction at far in excess of 100mph, it was just sheer luck that no one was killed. I sit next to the cost engineer here who is aiming to get over 400bhp out his BMW mini, problem is he drives like a total twat and there's only one final out come of that. Either he dies or ends up in jail for killing others.


Twobeers - 27/2/24 at 12:01 AM

Cars may be getting more powerful but in fairness i hardly ever come across any one driving with any degree of purpose so to speak. Most people seem to be driving sensibly, which i suppose should be a good development.

A far cry from the 90s, where coming up to a Sierra Cosworth in say an M3 always resulted in some sort of gentle to purposeful interaction at best and a balls out car chase at worst.

Everyone seems to drive like they've got 9 points on their license. Perhaps the message that speed kills has finally won the day but in some ways I'm pleased; most modern cars' superior dynamics are utilised in accident reduction, you don't often see cars poking out of hedges any more which has to be a good thing.

I'm very grateful for the last 40 years of driving, I'm so pleased I'll be missing most of the next 40:-)

As to why the forum is quiet, I wasn't around when it was busy, but I imagine it has much to do with a larger section of younger people not having the wherewithal to build stuff these days. But I may be wrong.


Mr Whippy - 27/2/24 at 07:30 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Twobeers
Cars may be getting more powerful but in fairness i hardly ever come across any one driving with any degree of purpose so to speak. Most people seem to be driving sensibly, which i suppose should be a good development.


Where on earth do you live?? it's certainly not round here


_luke - 27/2/24 at 07:47 AM

quote:
Originally posted by coyoteboy
Has anyone contacted Luke or Chris to see if they can resolve the problem without forcing re-confirming. The effort involved in re-confirming is likely to be a very high barrier to anyone who doesn't frequent regularly.


I have just checked in - will have a look at this process to see if I can clean it up. Also anyone who was confirmed before will mostly now be confirmed again.

It is an effort to maintain this site - there are people out there who are targeting it for fun.


coyoteboy - 27/2/24 at 10:07 AM

That is the nature of the Internet now unfortunately, I have to keep my own sites up to date and constantly monitor them for attacks, not least due to GDPR requirements.


_luke - 27/2/24 at 10:30 AM

It's not as simple as keeping up to date as this forum software is very old. The underlying systems are fine, it is the forum software that is an issue.

More changes coming now which should help.


coyoteboy - 27/2/24 at 11:19 AM

quote:
Originally posted by _luke
It's not as simple as keeping up to date as this forum software is very old. The underlying systems are fine, it is the forum software that is an issue.



Yes, I know that well, my point was it hasn't been kept up to date for years and it's an ongoing battle to do so even on one that has. XMB is a fairly poorly supported forum software from what I see, but it is still being maintained.

[Edited on 27/2/2024 by coyoteboy]


_luke - 28/2/24 at 10:39 AM

If you found it difficult to re-validate your email address please could you reply here? I have just tried it and it worked without doing anything other than clicking the link in the email. So not helpful to find the issue!