In fact I have contemplated selling my Indy when it's finished to do just this, but "finished" is the key word here
If you were to have a trackday car, or another one, what route would you be most interested in?
If I were to "build" another car it would most likely be a Pug 205 with Mi16 engine conversion. I wouldn't spend thousands on tuning,
but strip it out as far as possible to reduce the weight and fit better brakes and a decent set of tyres.
In fact I have contemplated selling my Indy when it's finished to do just this, but "finished" is the key word here
A race prepared seven with a bike engine is as light and balanced a car as you'll find. A stripped out hatchback or saloon just isn't going
to be as good.
I also include such things as carterham 21s and fisher furys as "seven type" because despite the disguise of the bodywork, the mecahics and
chassis are quite similar.
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Originally posted by smart51
A race prepared seven with a bike engine is as light and balanced a car as you'll find. A stripped out hatchback or saloon just isn't going to be as good.
I also include such things as carterham 21s and fisher furys as "seven type" because despite the disguise of the bodywork, the mecahics and chassis are quite similar.
I shall mostly be having a single seater powered by a bike engine and styled on a sixties F1 car.
In fact I've startied to weld the chassis today.
Cheers
Chris
buying a good 205 and fitting an Mi engine will cost you more than £2000 for use as a track car. The MI engine is good powerwise but suffers from oil
surge. In a track car you would need to fit a dry sump kit. If you fit carbs to the mi you need to look at mapped ignition or a 1.9 dizzy adaptor to
get the best out of the engine.
you'll also need an LSD if you want to accelerate out of corners quickly.
You can pickup 7 type cars and do an engine conversion for simalar cash.
Sylva strikers spring to mind.
no sniggering but a reliant kitten is a cheap way to build a cheap track car rear drive under 500kg and takes bike engines with no problems. runs on
10" wheels and are hysterical to drive
I'm building a kit...
It's primarily aimed at Trackday with the odd Road Trip to the track ;-)
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Originally posted by awinter
buying a good 205 and fitting an Mi engine will cost you more than £2000 for use as a track car. The MI engine is good powerwise but suffers from oil surge. In a track car you would need to fit a dry sump kit. If you fit carbs to the mi you need to look at mapped ignition or a 1.9 dizzy adaptor to get the best out of the engine.
you'll also need an LSD if you want to accelerate out of corners quickly.
You can pickup 7 type cars and do an engine conversion for simalar cash.
Sylva strikers spring to mind.
you could easily build a budget bec for £3k. It would have to use a blade or zx9 engine for that price though (£300ish)
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Originally posted by awinter
buying a good 205 and fitting an Mi engine will cost you more than £2000 for use as a track car. The MI engine is good powerwise but suffers from oil surge. In a track car you would need to fit a dry sump kit. If you fit carbs to the mi you need to look at mapped ignition or a 1.9 dizzy adaptor to get the best out of the engine.
you'll also need an LSD if you want to accelerate out of corners quickly.
You can pickup 7 type cars and do an engine conversion for simalar cash.
Sylva strikers spring to mind.
Radicals and race spec cars should be lined up on a grid waiting for the red lights to go out, as nature intended!
If I stopped racing, an E30 M3 would be top of my list. Road trips to the 'ring and spa etc.
Nice to see so much discussion on the trusty old Pug
I have to admit that my choice is as much emotional attachment to the cars as for their suitability in terms of cost/performance ratio.
Jubal - I saw the pics of your car when you had it for sale, very nicely done and exactly the sort of thing I have in mind.
As has been said, the cars are cheap as chips and the bits are easy to get hold of and fit yourself. I reckon £3000 would see a pretty well sorted
car, maybe not cosmetically perfect, but great fun to drive
The dry sump is needed as the car is primarily to be used on track. If it were for road use and ocassional track use on standard injection I would not
fit a dry sump kit. You will find 405 mi's with knackerd bottomends. The cornering forces generated by silcks and stiff supenspension combined
with the extra grunt that carbs produce can generate serious oil surge. Anybody who really hammers an Mi as above round a track will at some point
suffer with oil surge.
The oil sits in the head on long left handers.
Nick, did u used to get on peugeot sport website a couple of years ago?
I have a 309 with an Mi in it. Six speed, lsd, coil overs, twin 45's, maniflow exhaust manifold etc. She gonna get sold very soon though
Forget track days and go racing.
Simple as that!!! The excitement of doing track days is miniscule compared to the adrenalin of proper competition.
GO RACING!!!!
awinter
Yes, i used to frequent the peugeot sport club forum a few years ago, as did Ned. To be honest I got fed up with the mine's bigger than yours
Max Power attitude, people asking why their cars wouldn't start and how many BHP was to be gained by fitting a numpty exhaust system.
I find the discussion on here of an altogether higher calibre 
usually!
Mid engined BEC kit car weighing less than 450kgs would be the way I'd go.
Although I do like the Elise.
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Originally posted by nick205
Jubal - I saw the pics of your car when you had it for sale, very nicely done and exactly the sort of thing I have in mind.
I hope to get my indy on the track this year. but for £1000 you cant beat a sierra V6 4x4 (car was £300, spent £700 on roll cage, suspension, exhust.. etc). Great laugh, specially when 5 other people have the same car. If I put it in the barrier i've only lost £300. If I put the indy in the barrier Ive lost £5000 and I lot of (my bro's) hard work!!