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arrybradbury - 24/1/07 at 12:56 AM

How much of a car can you change before you have to get it SVA'd? Does the z-cars mini need an SVA?

G.Man - 24/1/07 at 06:45 AM

I don't believe the Zcars mini requires an SVA

Humbug - 24/1/07 at 07:31 AM

Technically I think a Z Cars mini ought to have an SVA, because the car does not have the original unmodified chassis/body shell - they cut a huge chunk out of the back for the engine/drivetrain

donut - 24/1/07 at 07:43 AM

Yes but the rear subframe is being replaced by another subframe. Ok it's not the same design but better! It's another one of those grey areas!!

DIY Si - 24/1/07 at 10:37 AM

Technically it should do, as te shell is modded and the engine changed. You can do one or the other, but not both I think. You may be able to claim they were done at different times, by different owners, but still a grey area.

G.Man - 24/1/07 at 04:18 PM

And to be fair, it would walk an SVA anyway....

andyps - 24/1/07 at 04:54 PM

quote:
Originally posted by G.Man
And to be fair, it would walk an SVA anyway....



I wouldn't be so sure - the Mini in the final years of its life was given may exemptions from construction and use regulations because it was built to the original design. If it had been introduced in the 90's it would not have been allowed for all sorts of reasons including projections etc.

I think if you asked officially you would find that a car such as the Z cars Mini should have an SVA test because of the chassis modifications - there isn't enough Mini "chassis" left to not need testing.

There isn't much point in us complaining about a certain Robin Hood Lightweight and then saying that it doesn't apply to another car...

G.Man - 24/1/07 at 06:30 PM

The point is, the sva will not fail existing parts of the chassis, they will only look at the modifications, which are more than sufficient..

If you import a car from another country, and have it sva'd they dont look at the projections and test the radii like they do a kit... same applies to the exisiting mini chassis...

There is a big difference between the zcars mini and the RH lightweight... the lightweight is downright dangerous, has failed sva's and he was deliberately LYING in a sale! thats not only a breach of the SVA regs, its also a breach of the sale of goods act!

andyps - 24/1/07 at 10:43 PM

quote:
Originally posted by G.Man
The point is, the sva will not fail existing parts of the chassis, they will only look at the modifications, which are more than sufficient..

If you import a car from another country, and have it sva'd they dont look at the projections and test the radii like they do a kit... same applies to the exisiting mini chassis...

There is a big difference between the zcars mini and the RH lightweight... the lightweight is downright dangerous, has failed sva's and he was deliberately LYING in a sale! thats not only a breach of the SVA regs, its also a breach of the sale of goods act!



I agree with you about the lightweight in question (I think - I have never seen it so can't comment on its construction, just the way it was done), but think that principles have to apply to all cases.

I didn't know that about the SVA for imported cars - what do they check specifically, I know it covers lights and emissions, but what else?

chockymonster - 24/1/07 at 11:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by G.Man

If you import a car from another country, and have it sva'd they dont look at the projections and test the radii like they do a kit... same applies to the exisiting mini chassis...


My subaru failed SVA because of dashboard protrusions outside the exemption range. I couldn't borrow the bits from another UK scoob as they were exactly the same.