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StevieB - 16/9/07 at 10:44 AM

Which car would be the most competitive package (lightness and handling) for sprint/hillclimbing.

I'm already planning my next build so I can go hillclimbing/sprinting and maybe racing (eventually) and I don't reckon the Indy's the right car for it.

As a starter for 10, I reckon it's probably between a Striker, R1ot and Fury. I'd consider a Westy or Caterham too.

Engine choice makes little difference, as long as the whole package is balanced for power and handling.

It also has to be useable on the road.

Play nice please...


donut - 16/9/07 at 10:49 AM

I would plumb for the Striker. Fab package and nice quality. Looks ideal for sprints etc.


David Jenkins - 16/9/07 at 10:51 AM

I like the Striker, purely for the neatness of the thing.

It was a shock when I first saw one, and realised just how small it was!


davidwag - 16/9/07 at 11:07 AM

Hi,

First thing you need to do is work out what class your going to be in. Have a look at the times for last season and see what classes are competitive and decide if your going to go head up again them, or pick an easier class.

Remember some people in competitive classes may have put many years and a lot of money into development, don't expect to just arrive and be winning classes, especialy if you have never done any before.

Once you have decided on class then you need to pick the engine/ chassis combo that are going to work well together.

The scoring system used (i.e. points for times relative to a bogie time) means that you are more likely to win a championship if you can find a car that will be competive in a class that is not so popular and with slow class records.

But it depends on whether you would find it more of a challenge, in a competitive class, where a win is taken on a hundredth of a second with some good banter.

David Wagstaff


bimbleuk - 16/9/07 at 11:24 AM

quote:

As a starter for 10, I reckon it's probably between a Striker, R1ot and Fury



That'll be the Mojo 2 then which is just known as the Mojo still. I don't think Jeremy Philips ever stops refining the design. Got to be one of the best and simplest designs out there?


CraigJ - 16/9/07 at 11:27 AM

I'll suggest the Mongoose from Onyx because hill climbing is what they use it for and it goes pretty well. very low, mid-engined, and quite light, There K-series one weighs around 440kg my bike engined one will hopefully be around the 350-380kg mark.


iank - 16/9/07 at 11:29 AM

As ^^^^ pick the class first, then car.

Having said that it sounds like you are set on one of the roadgoing kitcar classes. Are you wanting/needing to be competitive in your first season or getting to know the sport? If happy to start off at the back then keep the indy for now and learn to drive it (sounds insulting, but like any motorsport it's 100 miles away from road driving and needs a couple of years to excel).

If going for a car that's purely for sprints/hillclimbs and will be trailered to the event then you might want to consider one of the single seat classes (with something like a jedi) as it will take up less room in the garage and need a smaller trailer.

What about a SprintR? Don't know what class they'd be in, but if it's in with the 7's it should do well.

Having said all that I'd go with a Striker rather than the others on your list, or a r1ot if you want a middy.


StevieB - 16/9/07 at 02:21 PM

The car needs to be road legal for me to justify the money, and I know the class I'll be entering (hence the types of cars I'm looking at).

I'll be using the Indy while I cut my teeth and go on from there.

I just wanted to guage peoples opinions on what is the best package in terms of handling, power and affordability (which takes the Caterham CSR Superlight out of the equation!).


mark chandler - 16/9/07 at 03:16 PM

If you have a look at previous track times it gets a bit more interesting.

An RGB class C (early blade engined car) will lap small circuits faster than a 4.6 Westfield.

Where the tracks have longer straights it swaps around.

Do you want to win (very expensive) or just compete. If its to compete how about a Jedi, ultra small, bike engined on slicks with its own series. You will have a good time on a budget, middle runners us ethe same tyres for a season.

Only thing is not road legal, but easy to tow.

Regards Mark


skydivepaul - 16/9/07 at 09:07 PM

as said before choose your class wisley.

the front runners at harewood and other sprint and hillclimb venues run either sylva striker or westfield.

my recommendation would be either westfield, striker or cateringvan.
you should be able to pick up a competitive car for 6 - 8K at the end of the season.

if you go the westfield route they have their own speed series which caters for every class of westie going (choose a road going novice class for your first season, dont be tempted to go for BEC or modified with slicks etc)

you wont go far wrong with that.
Most people trailer their cars to events as even though the cars are entered in the road going class they are only road legal in the technical sense. most never are driven on the roads.
the exception to that is the wscc speed series where quite a few competitors drive to the events.
you can always run a striker or cateringvan in the wscc although you will be better accepted in a westie

cheers

Paul


andyps - 18/9/07 at 08:12 PM

As mentioned above, the Stryker is very competitive, the championship results from Harewood this year show it as the people that came 7th and 8th both use them and are dominant in their class, as well as overall. Take a look at some of the event results to see this.