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Electrifying a bicycle
Simon - 16/7/08 at 06:32 PM

Chaps,

I'm toying with the idea of electrifying a mountain bike, so I don't have to use the pedals

Now, from what I gather the law states that only 200 watts is allowed (250/tandem) for pedal assist. However, we don't want to worry about that now do we Off road use only

So what are you suggestions for motor (about 500 - 750 watts and what voltage/amperage), battery and throttle control.

Range needed approx 10 miles at most, though I'll pedal if I have to!. Performance is the thing here

No hub kits, way too expensive.

Last thing, if I can build a car for £250, this has to be done on a propotionately cheaper cost!

Cheers very much

ATB

Simon


MkIndy7 - 16/7/08 at 06:47 PM

Thought you were tring to stop somebody thieveing the 1 you've got!


JohnN - 16/7/08 at 06:47 PM

Car battery, rated 60 amp-hours, which I take to mean 1 amp for 60 hours or 60 amps for 1 hour?

750 watt motor, 12 volts = approx 60 amps.

So lug a car battery + 12v 750 watt motor (is that 1 horse power?) around and maybe it'll provide enough oomph to save you pedalling for up to 1 hour. As long as you maintain 10mph, that = 10 miles

Voila


speedyxjs - 16/7/08 at 07:35 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MkIndy7
Thought you were tring to stop somebody thieveing the 1 you've got!


Ouch


Daimo_45 - 16/7/08 at 07:43 PM

Bicycles are for pedaling


tomblyth - 16/7/08 at 07:48 PM

use lithium ion batterys!


rf900rush - 16/7/08 at 08:11 PM

Hi
Try my method.

1x 2kw 12v motor
1x 18inch model plane propeller.
1x crude fan guard.

Weld the fan unit to the back.
mount one 20AH battery.

The only problem I had, was that every one in the street stopped to look for a light aircraft tracking off.

Scary with a 18" prop doing 6000rpm 10" from ya butt.

Just wish I had a video camara back then.


tegwin - 16/7/08 at 09:21 PM

Sod that...this is the jet age....

Get a pair of model gas turbines and strap them to the bike...

Or if you are feeling adventurous...get a model helicopter turboshaft engine...they do those up to about 7.5hp.....although you would deafen and burn anyone passing!


Simon - 17/7/08 at 12:56 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Daimo_45
Bicycles are for pedaling


Yeah, like cars are for being towed behind horses

ATB

Simon


MikeRJ - 17/7/08 at 11:41 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Simon

Last thing, if I can build a car for £250, this has to be done on a propotionately cheaper cost!



Petrol engine donors are plentiful and cheap, the same can't be said for electric ones! Speed controllers and decent batteries are also not cheap items.

The motor from an electric wheelchair/invalid carriage will be about the power you are looking for. Alternatively suitable motors are available from the cheap electric scooters that China is exporting, something like this should be usable, though I think something around the 200-300 Watt range would probably be adequate. You can buy a complete, brand new (low power)electric scooter for forty quid!

Might be worth a look on the Fighting Robots (a.k.a Robot Wars) forums as they tend to use some pretty hefty motors and the associated speed controllers and batteries, so should be able to recommend a supplier or maybe even have something for sale.


Simon - 17/7/08 at 01:33 PM

Mike,

Yep, I thinking along mobility scooters at the mo.

A friend may have a motor, controller and battery. Given these things weigh quite a bit and can do 8mph, I figure lighter weight, better gearing and "jobsagood'un" as they say

ATB

Simon


Omni - 17/7/08 at 05:33 PM

What about this? 30 MPH

Engine for Pedal Cycle

OK it is Petrol but 30 mph and 120 miles to the gallon hehehe

O

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