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ATB Diff oil
peter030371 - 23/3/14 at 12:54 PM

I now have a very nice sierra diff with a Quaife ATB, new seals, new bearings, new cwp....basically everything is new other than the case (which was shot blasted so looks new) and the propshaft flange

So what oil do I put in it?

Quaife say 'use a hypoid 90 or 75W90' and I happen to have on the shelf an unopened bottle of Red Line Heavy Shockproof which says 'The viscosity characteristics allow the lubricant to resist throwoff and provide a film thickness similar to a 75W250 grade, while providing the same low fluid friction as an SAE 75W90' so will this be OK?

I am not after trying to save money, having spent a 4 figure sum on this diff (don't ask, started out as a £650 job an ended up over twice that ) I am not about to skimp on oil, but will the stuff I have be a good oil to use in it?


Paul Turner - 23/3/14 at 01:24 PM

Only ever used 75/90 in my Quaiffe diff, think its GL5 stuff. Whatever, its as Quaiffe recommended. 15 years later its not been touched.

After spending a small fortune fitting the new ATB you would be crazy to risk damaging it by saving a few quid on oil.

Its not like the Quaiffe needs mega expensive special oils.

Just but some on the right stuff.


Scuzzle - 23/3/14 at 05:29 PM

Put in the best oil for your gearbox internals, the Quaife can get by on it. For my Escort RS Turbo gearbox I was advised to use 75w90 semi synthetic as it was best for running through all the small oilways in the box and that the Quaife ATB would be fine with this.


jeffw - 23/3/14 at 05:40 PM

I use this in my ATB

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-712-castrol-b-373-racing-gear-oil-sae-90-b373.aspx


Doctor Derek Doctors - 23/3/14 at 07:18 PM

I used the Millers oil from Rally Design that matched the spec Quaife recommended for the ATB, expensive stuff but not had any problems


sssline - 23/3/14 at 08:49 PM

Hi,
Just fitted a rebuilt diff with Quaife ATB, and used this...

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-68901-fuchs-titan-race-syn-5-75w-90-fully-synthetic-gear-oil-was-silkolene-syn-5-75w-90.aspx

Cheers
Tony.R


Paul Turner - 24/3/14 at 08:54 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Scuzzle
Put in the best oil for your gearbox internals,



Off topic slightly but not always true. Put the best oil available in a type 9 and the syncros will probably not work. In a type 9 the old school brass syncros require some friction to work, put in a super dupa synthetic oil and less friction = poor change. For a type 9 the universal recommendation is a simple 80w90 semi synthetic GL4 grade, in mine Comma was nice and cheap and works perfectly.

Manufacturers do know a bit when it comes to oil recommendations, they have done far more testing than the bloke in the pub. Surely best to stick to those recommendations when you have spent over £1000. Always served me well.


Paul Turner - 24/3/14 at 08:57 AM

quote:
Originally posted by jeffw
I use this in my ATB

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-712-castrol-b-373-racing-gear-oil-sae-90-b373.aspx


Not the correct stuff at all. It for a LSD and the Quaiffe is an ATB. The friction modifiers required for a plate diff in this oil may do no harm but its GL6 spec and that is not what Quaiffe recommend.


peter030371 - 24/3/14 at 09:18 AM

But is my Red Line Heavy Shockproof a 75W90? If it is then that is what Ford say to use


Paul Turner - 24/3/14 at 09:47 AM

Redline list an oil that is correct for a Ford/Quaiffe diff.

http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=133&pcid=4

But the heavy shockproof

http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=44&pcid=4

clearly states "For heavily-loaded racing differentials and transmissions, problem gearboxes", don't think a diff in a Seven falls into that category even when racing.

Why not ask Quaiffe themselves for the cost of a phone call. It may be fine but just a bit OTT.

This has been in mine since 1999.

http://www.commaoil.com/passenger-vehicles/products/view/182


jeffw - 24/3/14 at 09:48 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Paul Turner
quote:
Originally posted by jeffw
I use this in my ATB

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-712-castrol-b-373-racing-gear-oil-sae-90-b373.aspx


Not the correct stuff at all. It for a LSD and the Quaiffe is an ATB. The friction modifiers required for a plate diff in this oil may do no harm but its GL6 spec and that is not what Quaiffe recommend.


Well it has been working for several seasons with over 300BHP so......