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carlknight1982 - 11/4/08 at 03:25 PM

How hard is it do convert the type 9 box to use paddle shift?

can you buy a kit to do it ? im just thinking it would look pretty cool


Dangle_kt - 11/4/08 at 03:32 PM

not heard of one, cheaper option would be to turn it into a BEC with paddle shift, unless someone knows of a cheap kit...

I'd be interested to hear replies to this one.

quote:
Originally posted by carlknight1982
How hard is it do convert the type 9 box to use paddle shift?

can you buy a kit to do it ? im just thinking it would look pretty cool


Lippoman - 11/4/08 at 03:32 PM

Paddle shift only works on sequential gearboxes so major surgery needed. I think there are sequential conversion kits for the 9, but at a cost...
There are also some gadgets that use electric actuators to change gear that can be controlled by paddles.
Will add links when I find them...


Aico - 11/4/08 at 03:33 PM

It's a H-gearbox not a sequential one so paddle shift is not possible.


grub - 11/4/08 at 03:36 PM

O DEAR ME


Delinquent - 11/4/08 at 03:40 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Aico
It's a H-gearbox not a sequential one so paddle shift is not possible.


you can convert an H to a sequential with a bit of imagination and rudimentary tools, I've seen it done with a Subaru box.

Personally if I were considering flappy paddles I'd only consider it if it were clutchless and attached to a DSG 'box (hence my question on DSG boxes in this forum...)


zilspeed - 11/4/08 at 03:53 PM

As stated above.

1) It is possible.
2) But you do need to have the box to sequential operation first.
3) This does cost a fortune.

No need for flamery of any sort IMHO, not every one of us knows everything...

[Edited on 11/4/08 by zilspeed]


mark.s - 11/4/08 at 04:59 PM

quote:
Originally posted by grub
O DEAR ME




MikeRJ - 11/4/08 at 05:02 PM

The IKEYA Sequen Shifter converts an H pattern box into a sequential shift, but I don't suppose they make one for the Type 9.


jono_misfit - 11/4/08 at 05:06 PM

Thats not strictly true about it needing to be sequential. Its just easier.

All that is required for a padle shift is a method of actuating the shift forks.

Type 9 gearboxs use some nicely accessible shift rods in the tail housing. Its possible to fit actuators to these and use some form of microcontroller control to give you a padle shift.

Ive never seen a kit but its something im looking at developing for my avenger once its running.

Paying someone to do it for you isnt likely to be cheep though.

The ikeya shifters usualy have a barrel in the shift level and use it to give different timing on the shift rods / cables

[Edited on 11/4/08 by jono_misfit]


motorcycle_mayhem - 11/4/08 at 08:00 PM

At AutoSport I did see and operate a peice of kit that did turn an H selector into a simple push button operation, operated by compressed air, seemed to work well. I recall it being 'Geartronics'


D Beddows - 11/4/08 at 08:42 PM

If you want a paddle shift fit a bike engine, end of story really anything else will either cost you about the same as the average total build cost of a 7alike or be an unreliable pile of junk tbh

But feel free to find that out for yourself


David Jenkins - 11/4/08 at 08:52 PM

Quaife will sell you a Type 9 box with a sequential shift - make sure that you're sitting down when you ask the price...


Mole - 11/4/08 at 09:15 PM

As above, have a look on Burton Power. Suggest you dial 999 first.

OMFG

[Edited on 11/4/08 by Mole]


ditchlewis - 11/4/08 at 09:22 PM

sequential box £4495

if you paddle shift say £5k. not lowcost

ditch


jono_misfit - 12/4/08 at 12:05 AM

Its amazing how negative people on this forum can be at times. Sometimes it doesnt read as constructive advice, just peoples personal prejudice.

If your seriously intersted id start reading up on microcontrollers (like a PIC for which there is a massive home use community) and begin designing something bespoke yourself in terms of shift mechanism.

There is no reason why if suitably desinged such a system would be any less reliable than an equivalent shifter for a BEC, or at a cost approaching that of a build for a 7esque car.

The design ive complete (although not yet built and developed) costs up at something near £300 which, with the exception of the one Ron allegedly built, is a lot less than a Locost.


D Beddows - 12/4/08 at 12:52 AM

Most things can be done if you really want to or really have to - nothing wrong with that, and nothing wrong with a bit of innovation either BUT with something like this it has to be asked is it actually worth the time and money you'll spend converting an H pattern box to paddle shift when a decent bike engine with a sequential box (effectively free) that's hugely easier to hook up a paddle shift to can be yours for about £1K?

Sometimes, in fact quite often, practicality is mistaken for negativity on this forum. If you want the challenge then fair enough you go for it but otherwise why make your life stupidly hard or expensive


jono_misfit - 12/4/08 at 09:22 AM

You are of course entitled to your opinion as is everyone.

I stand by my comments.