duttonbrian2
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 posted on 24/9/09 at 09:05 PM |
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How to tell the difference
Just bought a chassis (second hand) via the well known auction site. Problem is I don't know what I have got, can someone tell me how to
differentiate between the two chassis i.e. Haynes Roadster and the Locost.
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nib1980
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| posted on 24/9/09 at 09:08 PM |
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most likely if you post a link to it or some pictures i'm sure we can help
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Steve Hignett
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| posted on 24/9/09 at 09:17 PM |
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Measure the width;
Locost = 1067
Haynes = 1118
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duttonbrian2
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| posted on 24/9/09 at 09:20 PM |
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How to tell
I was hoping there were some critica dimensions that would define the chassis. I have already fitted the engine and box, fitted new wishbones to the
front on slightly different locations, re-located an MR2 rack (no bumpsteer). Next step is the column, but the position will partly depend on the
scuttle. When buying the body panels I don't know what to spec. Is there a difference in width's and heights?
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duttonbrian2
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| posted on 24/9/09 at 09:25 PM |
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How to tell
The question is answered the chassis is 42" 1066mm wide so it's a Locost.
So; Where can I buy body panels at an attractive price
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omega0684
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| posted on 24/9/09 at 09:35 PM |
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get back on your well known auction site 
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RK
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| posted on 24/9/09 at 09:45 PM |
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Check for locost parts on that site, and when you don't find it, go to someone like AMG sportscars or another manufacturer of same parts. The
body panels will come up on Fleabay eventually, but if you can't wait, there is always someone selling them. Put up wanted posts here.
A second hand fibreglass part that needs a bit of glass repair can be had for very cheap. So keep an eye out.
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duttonbrian2
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| posted on 24/9/09 at 09:52 PM |
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How to tell
Can someone confirm the width's of the chassis. I read somewhere that the Haynes was 42" wide.
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ReMan
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| posted on 24/9/09 at 11:26 PM |
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The Roadster takes a Sierra Independant rear end
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 25/9/09 at 07:54 AM |
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The front is different on the Haynes to the Locost i think. The Collins is different again.
Put some pictures up, and you will get a definitive answer.
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 25/9/09 at 09:09 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by duttonbrian2
Can someone confirm the width's of the chassis. I read somewhere that the Haynes was 42" wide.
The Locost is 42 inches wide which is ~1066mm. The Haynes Roadster chassis is 2 inches wider.
A "book" Locost chassis is designed for a live axle, the Haynes is designed for independent suspension. If there are no diff/wishbone
mounting areas on the chassis at the rear than you can be sure it's not a Haynes.
[Edited on 25/9/09 by MikeRJ]
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James
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| posted on 25/9/09 at 09:46 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by duttonbrian2
Can someone confirm the width's of the chassis. I read somewhere that the Haynes was 42" wide.
The Locost is 42 inches wide which is ~1066mm. The Haynes Roadster chassis is 2 inches wider.
A "book" Locost chassis is designed for a live axle, the Haynes is designed for independent suspension. If there are no diff/wishbone
mounting areas on the chassis at the rear than you can be sure it's not a Haynes.
[Edited on 25/9/09 by MikeRJ]
Finally a comprehensive answer! 
But to be honest, there are so many variations of these that some random chassis off ebay could be anything!!! It's a hobby which encourages
customisation and thinking 'outside of the box'.
My Locost is 4" wider than standard and ~10" longer. I'm sure there will be Haynes chassis out there that are 2" narrower so
stick to Locost sizes. I know of 2" wider Locost chassis' too.
Without pictures and a little info (ebay link would be a start!!!) I would say you're risking not getting a definitive answer.
Cheers,
James
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Humbug
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| posted on 25/9/09 at 01:44 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MakeEverything
The front is different on the Haynes to the Locost i think. The Collins is different again.
Put some pictures up, and you will get a definitive answer.
...more likely several definitive answers
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duttonbrian2
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| posted on 25/9/09 at 06:39 PM |
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How to tell
Many thanks for all who have replied, I have since found and downloaded the book "How to build your own sports car for as little as £250 and
race it" by Ron Champion. The dimensions seem to match up, The Book is published by Haynes so I assumed this would make it a Haynes Roadster,
tell me if I'm wrong.
The chassis was originaly set up for a live axle, now has a Mazda MX5 diff and wishbones. I guess the bodywork from a Locost will fit if it's
42" wide.
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duttonbrian2
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| posted on 25/9/09 at 06:49 PM |
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How to tell
I can't figure out how to send the Ebay link but here is the Item number 200374728026. If you can find the item, the description explains why
there's confusion.
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 25/9/09 at 07:18 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
A "book" Locost chassis is designed for a live axle, the Haynes is designed for independent suspension. If there are no diff/wishbone
mounting areas on the chassis at the rear than you can be sure it's not a Haynes.
[Edited on 25/9/09 by MikeRJ]
Luego locost chassis whilst not quite "book" uses a Sierra diff
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Marcus
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| posted on 25/9/09 at 07:33 PM |
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Hi Duttonbrian, the fact that it matches up with the Ron Champion book doesn't make it a Haynes Roadster, that title belongs to the Chris Gibbs
book also published by Haynes....confused?
The Champion book is a bona fide Locost, often referred to as a 'book chassis'. This is 42" wide with 12" high chassis floor
to top.
The Haynes roadster is 44" wide with independant rear suspension.
HTH
Marcus
Because kits are for girls!!
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Marcus
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| posted on 25/9/09 at 07:37 PM |
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Just looked at ebay listing..
linky thing
and as far as I can see it's deffo a Champion book chassis.
Marcus
Because kits are for girls!!
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kj
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| posted on 26/9/09 at 07:16 AM |
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yep its a ron champion
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 26/9/09 at 12:12 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by rusty nuts
quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
A "book" Locost chassis is designed for a live axle, the Haynes is designed for independent suspension. If there are no diff/wishbone
mounting areas on the chassis at the rear than you can be sure it's not a Haynes.
[Edited on 25/9/09 by MikeRJ]
Luego locost chassis whilst not quite "book" uses a Sierra diff
Note that I said the absence of diff mountings means it's definitely not a Haynes, it doesn't prove that it's not some other Locost
derived chassis!
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