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Rich_p

posted on 18/3/13 at 03:06 PM Reply With Quote
Help identifying car type please.

Hi,

I'm new to the forum and have been having a read of some of the threads, there's some tidy builds that's for sure.

I currently have a 309 gti that was being used for airfield days etc but since deciding to improve it it's been almost finished and is currently unused.
I'm now thinking I may just but the bullet and get something that's ready to go.

I've seen this ex 750mc car for sale but am trying to identify the exact type so I can check on availability of body panels etc if I were to require them.
The seller is unsure as he did not do the original build. Looking at various pictures on the net I think it may be a Luego chassis (it's circa 2004).

Can anyone confirm this please?

Also is there anything that looks initially dodgy with the set up or is it all pretty much as normal? (Apart from the purple chassis!)






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loggyboy

posted on 18/3/13 at 03:27 PM Reply With Quote
IS there that much difference between book chassis? I thought a Locost was fairly fixed, expecially when it comes to racing versions, to keep it as 'stock' as possible.





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Peteff

posted on 18/3/13 at 03:30 PM Reply With Quote
The chassis looks like any locost, is it a solid 5 link rear axle or independent? The idea with locost is if you break it you mend what you have or get something and make it fit. Front wings will fit anything, rears depend on axle and wheel width and nosecones will be available if it is a standard width. The aluminium panels you make yourself from a sheet. The fuel pipe looks a bit iffy slung round the engine bay not clipped but apart from that it looks pretty normal. Chassis colour is not something to worry about normally

[Edited on 18/3/13 by Peteff]





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I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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ernie

posted on 18/3/13 at 04:56 PM Reply With Quote
Looking at the shape of the nosecone, it's probably a Stuart Taylor-Aries





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puma931

posted on 18/3/13 at 05:49 PM Reply With Quote
Hi, I bought an ex-race car a while back (take a look at my pictures.
The best place to buy body parts is ebay - via low7man

Got it like this


and it is now almost finished




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puma931

posted on 18/3/13 at 06:01 PM Reply With Quote
I think the chassis is by Luego.
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paulf

posted on 18/3/13 at 06:50 PM Reply With Quote
The rear wings are Stuart Taylor so maybe the whole car is as the area they fit is slightly different to most other locosts due to the extension to the rear bulkhead side chassis area.
Paul

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theduck

posted on 18/3/13 at 09:25 PM Reply With Quote
Are you intending to use on track only or road as well? I presume looking at the photos it isn't road registered and IMO would need quite a bit of work to get through IVA.
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Rich_p

posted on 18/3/13 at 10:30 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks for the replies.

It will be used on the road too. The rules of the series it was raced it state the cars should be mot ready and I'm told it only needs the indicators connecting up and it will be ready to go. He's willing to mot it too.

I'm not sure whether to go for something like this or hold out for something with a bigger engine so less likely to want to change it in the future and that's a little tidier under the skin.

Price wise it seems a bit cheaper than others I've seen for sale. He is asking just under £3k for it Ono.

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theduck

posted on 19/3/13 at 07:41 AM Reply With Quote
Is it already road registered then? If not it will need more than an MOT.
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TimC

posted on 19/3/13 at 07:48 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by paulf
The rear wings are Stuart Taylor so maybe the whole car is as the area they fit is slightly different to most other locosts due to the extension to the rear bulkhead side chassis area.
Paul


If you can photograph the front wishbones that would probably confirm. There's a lot of work to get that road registered as stated.






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Rich_p

posted on 19/3/13 at 11:06 AM Reply With Quote
Right, I had a reply. It has been MOT'd and used on the road previously by the current owner.

Does it seem reasonable Price wise for what it is or should I be looking for a big discount?
He sounds like he may take an offer.

The engine was rebuilt 3 races ago and the car has fresh fluids througout.
Other details are that the sump is believed to be baffled but he will confirm. There is no quickrack currently fitted.

Here are the wishbones



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mcerd1

posted on 19/3/13 at 11:41 AM Reply With Quote
the big question is have you seen the V5 and is it correctly regestered ?
and when was it regesterd ?

i.e. its not a Dutton, a sierra, escort, a ford sports car, etc....
and its not first regested in 1978 etc...

[Edited on 19/3/2013 by mcerd1]





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theduck

posted on 19/3/13 at 01:36 PM Reply With Quote
I severely doubt that car has ever been through SVA/IVA. If it has then it has been changed dramatically/badly since. Just because its been used on the road doesn't mean it's correctly registered, and te fact he doesn't know what make it is suggests its incorrectly registered so would need an IVA to be used legally.
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Westy1994

posted on 19/3/13 at 04:45 PM Reply With Quote
I must admit , if you can't get proof from the seller that this car has been on the road in the recent past , and that you are intending it be on road again - I would walk away and find something else no matter how cheap it may be, would cost huge amounts as already said to get road legal these days. Get the seller to email you a scan of the last MOT cert and the V5, if he will..

ETA

as for the wishbones, they are identical to mine, not that really means much in the grand scheme of things....



[Edited on 19/3/13 by Westy1994]

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loggyboy

posted on 19/3/13 at 04:55 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by theduck
I severely doubt that car has ever been through SVA/IVA. If it has then it has been changed dramatically/badly since. Just because its been used on the road doesn't mean it's correctly registered, and te fact he doesn't know what make it is suggests its incorrectly registered so would need an IVA to be used legally.


It doesnt have to have been through either to be road legal, if it was registered correctly, before SVA was introduced (1998ish) then it could be ok, it could have also been registered in the amnesty period that the DVLA set out when SVA was first introduced that encouraged owners of kitcars on the road to register them correctly and they wouldnt need to pass SVA.
As stated above, its all about the model name on the V5 that counts.





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