alfas
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| posted on 23/7/14 at 08:21 PM |
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Formula27...Ring-Ding-Dong Dutton
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=291194754263
looks more like a F27 than a Dutton...
why so many ringers pop-up actually at ebay??
[Edited on 23/7/14 by alfas]
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r1_pete
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| posted on 23/7/14 at 08:54 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by alfas
why so many ringers pop-up actually at ebay??
Because eBay don't know what a Dutton would look like, and probably don't care as they're getting their fees.
but people are clearly dodging IVA, which cannot be good for the kit / modified car scene, our government is likely to just blanket legislate if they
do anything.
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myke pocock
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| posted on 23/7/14 at 09:32 PM |
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Think you would be a bit desperate to spend two and a half thou on it anyway!
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alfas
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| posted on 23/7/14 at 09:37 PM |
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but majority of those ringers are freshly mot-ed....
are all those testers blind?
or is the system wrong?
i mean UK has an IVA test for new kits and the usual people are always afraid passing the MOT...but with older kitcars everything is differnt?
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coozer
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| posted on 23/7/14 at 09:52 PM |
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Reported to the Dutton owners...
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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alfas
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| posted on 23/7/14 at 10:20 PM |
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is it possible to report such things tó VOSA or DVLA?
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owelly
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| posted on 23/7/14 at 10:38 PM |
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VOSA, DVLA and the plod have no interest. I spoke to a lovely lady who came out to inspect one of my kit cars (that had been cloned by someone on
here!) and she told me that there were plans to add an image to the MoT system as a quick visual check for the tester to ensure the vehicle that was
presented, was the same as the one on the V5. They were to contact owners clubs for verification. This was a few years ago now, and the DVLA had just
spunked a huge pile of cash into fixing a new multi-million pound computer system. Mrs DVLA assumed the proposal would be shelved until the budget
recovered......
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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ceebmoj
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| posted on 23/7/14 at 11:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by owelly
I spoke to a lovely lady who came out to inspect one of my kit cars (that had been cloned by someone on here!)
wow, I hope you got that sorted
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britishtrident
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| posted on 24/7/14 at 08:39 AM |
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If the car had been originally registered as a Builders Name Special the this type of issue couldn't come to light.
Another way to look at it is anything that takes a Dutton off the road has to be good for road safety.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 24/7/14 at 06:58 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by alfas
but majority of those ringers are freshly mot-ed....
are all those testers blind?
Just because it has a new MOT doesn't mean the tester is blind ,it isn't the tester job to know the difference between a Dutton and any
other kit car, you obviously don't know any thing about the MOT test so why slag off the tester? It is up to DVSA and the DVLA to sort this out
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alfas
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| posted on 25/7/14 at 09:15 AM |
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i thought a resonsibly working mot-tester would cooperate with dvla and dvsa in terms of such issues.
so my thinking was wrong.
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 25/7/14 at 11:59 AM |
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so if a landrover turns up for an MOT with the reg & vin plate from a fiesta, the MOT tester is just going to put it through?
don't think so
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adithorp
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| posted on 25/7/14 at 12:42 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
so if a landrover turns up for an MOT with the reg & vin plate from a fiesta, the MOT tester is just going to put it through?
don't think so
But he'd know the difference between a Mini and a L/rover. It's highly unlikely an MOT tester would know the difference between two 7esque
kit cars. As it's perfectly legal to alter the bodywork on a kit without having to notify DVLA (providing it still meets the very loose V5 body
type description), he'd also have to know the difference between the chassis.
Now if it said Ford Escort on the MOT data (remember there's no requirement to supply v5 at MOT) but looked like a 7 then questions might be
asked. Paper work says Dutton = thats a kit car = it looks like a kit car = carry on
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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jossey
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| posted on 25/7/14 at 12:53 PM |
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It's so easy to do this though and seems not many people get caught...
I want to iva mine next year... Best keep an eye out for a dutton lol
Thanks
David Johnson
Building my tiger avon slowly but surely.
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whitestu
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| posted on 25/7/14 at 01:21 PM |
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The DVLA wouldn't be my worry with a car like this. The biggie is if you have an accident causing injury or death (even if not at fault) and
your insurance get a sniff the car is a ringer. That could potentially be a life changing event!
Stu
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mark chandler
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| posted on 25/7/14 at 01:25 PM |
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20 years ago lots of kit cars, cobra replicas etc were registered as triumph heralds etc and only had the front suspension uprights.
It's nothing new and on a very old car no surprise.
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myke pocock
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| posted on 25/7/14 at 02:30 PM |
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My JC Midge was described as a Triumh Vitesse Sports, the Sports bit being added by DVLA at the time. Subsequently got it changed to JC Midge after a
small amount of hassle from the local DVLA office.
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alfas
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| posted on 27/7/14 at 09:36 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mark chandler
20 years ago lots of kit cars, cobra replicas etc were registered as triumph heralds etc and only had the front suspension uprights.
It's nothing new and on a very old car no surprise.
thas correct....but peole used a loophole of the law in that day or lack of attention on the part of the governmental institutions (like DVLA,
VOSA,etc)
even in the old times such a thing was not correct
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