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ned

posted on 16/4/06 at 08:33 PM Reply With Quote
discussion (arguement) with my dad..

Did the whole family thing on friday for lunch, dad asked how the car was going etc. got onto talking about the engine and he said is it naturally aspirated and I say yes - its running injection on throttle bodies. At this point he says (in the dad i'm right you're wrong kinda way) oh so its not on carburettors, then its not naturally aspirated - its injected. I say no naturally aspirated can be injected - non naturally aspirated would be super or turbo charged ie forced induction. He says no naturally aspirated is carburated.

You never can tell your dad (well i can't mine) especially when he thinks he's right so i let it drop.

He is a knob but he's definately wrong on this one isn't he?!!!!!!!

cheers,

Ned.

[Edited on 16/4/06 by ned]





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phelpsa

posted on 16/4/06 at 08:35 PM Reply With Quote
I don't have that problem, my dad knows I know more about cars than him






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minordelay

posted on 16/4/06 at 08:40 PM Reply With Quote
He's wrong but most dads are, couldn't be here without em!!!
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mookaloid

posted on 16/4/06 at 08:42 PM Reply With Quote
The two choices are Normally aspirated( air is sucked in by the piston going down on the intake stroke) or forced induction (compressed air is forced in using a turbo or supercharger)

Fuel injection is just a more accurate way of metering the fuel.

Maybe he is confusing forced induction of air with the pressurised (forced) introduction of fuel into the intake air?

HTH

Mark

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the_fbi

posted on 16/4/06 at 08:43 PM Reply With Quote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturally_aspirated
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iank

posted on 16/4/06 at 08:45 PM Reply With Quote
Wikipedia says you are right, and your dad is wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normally_aspirated

But the chances of an online encyclopedia convincing him are probably minimal.

Edit: Bah, Mr FBI beat me by seconds

[Edited on 16/4/06 by iank]

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ed_crouch

posted on 16/4/06 at 08:48 PM Reply With Quote
Ugh. My computer is messing around. there was 2 of my posts, so i edited the second one, and then the first disappeared.

Anyway , what I said wasnt interesting anyway.



Ed.


[Edited on 16/4/06 by ed_crouch]





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robinbastd

posted on 16/4/06 at 09:22 PM Reply With Quote
Ned,
Knob or not,right or wrong - make the most of having your dad about.
He's wrong by the way.

Ian





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Mr G

posted on 16/4/06 at 09:54 PM Reply With Quote
Point him in the direction of the MG turbo's (Maestro/Montego) then and ask what they are!
(carburetted forced induction)




Cheers

G

EDIT: Print THIS out and give him a copy for reference

[Edited on 16/4/06 by Mr G]






Normal is getting dressed in clothes that you buy for work and driving through traffic in a
car that you are still paying for - in order to get to the job you need to pay for the clothes
and the car, and the house you leave vacant all day so you can afford to live in it.

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Simon

posted on 17/4/06 at 12:30 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by minordelay
He's wrong but most dads are, couldn't be here without em!!!


I told my father not to buy a Merc, he did, and the aircon just conked out on him (could be up to a grand to fix.

Point proven I think.

N/A is carbs or inj

T/C or S/C is Forced Aspriation

ATB

Simon

PS Friend of mine old man said his horse was 16 hands 5. Didn't like to correct him.






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bob

posted on 17/4/06 at 08:16 AM Reply With Quote
Ned

Dad's are two a penny (or so i've heard )

I adopted the old bugger biddle as mine,problem solved.






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rusty nuts

posted on 17/4/06 at 08:28 AM Reply With Quote
Shame on you Ned for calling your dad a Knob even if he is wrong
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SixedUp

posted on 17/4/06 at 09:33 AM Reply With Quote
Having now got a family of my own I can categorically state that it's a fathers role in life to be wrong about everything. Even things you don't venture an opinion on. Once you accept that and move on, life gets a lot simpler.

So, of course you dad is wrong. But hey, at least you were able to spend some quality time arguing with him :-)

Cheers
Richard

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ned

posted on 17/4/06 at 05:48 PM Reply With Quote
Of course i love my dad guys, though i stand by the fact that he can still be a knob at times, maybe its where i get it from

Thing that frustrates me most about him is that when i was younger he was always encouraging me to go out and hold the spanners whilst he did repair/servicing jobs on the various cars he owned. He has had a 1953 riley rme 1 1/2 (not really my cup of tea) for the last 15 years in a state of 'restoration' ( a project he started jointly with my grandad who passed away about 9 years ago now) but he seems totally uninterested in my project and never offers to help with any of it.

In some ways I kind of wish he'd take more of an interest, but am equally thankful i suppose for having the encouragement when i was younger and the pride/sense of achievement i get from having done it without him (although i owe a lot to numerous people on this site of course - you kow who you are )

cheers all,

Ned.





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rusty nuts

posted on 17/4/06 at 06:11 PM Reply With Quote
They are frustrating at times aren't they? at least mine was .
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