02GF74
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| posted on 25/4/06 at 03:57 PM |
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modfied classics
anyone know the scoop or have more info. abpiut the government bringing into law the preventiojn of modifying classi cars?
For you to know what I am on about, was an article in Classic Ford with a petition - I will get the article - and it was something like neededg SVA if
the original engine e.g. Cosworth into an Anglia or suspension mods being fitted requiring an SVA.
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DIY Si
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| posted on 25/4/06 at 04:20 PM |
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I heard this too, but haven't been able to find out what's going on with it. If it does come in, I'm up the usual with out a
propelling device. There's barely a standard part on my '71 mini. Which does make it really fast. Until the men in gray pass a silly
rule like this one.
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Lawnmower
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| posted on 25/4/06 at 04:28 PM |
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Will affect all hotrods, and most landy too.
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donut
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| posted on 25/4/06 at 04:34 PM |
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I think you can mod the car but you will need to put it through SVA. This will be a pain for 99% of people who mod their cars but ok for peeps who
build Hot Rods from scratch ( so to speek) as they need SVA like us.
Of course i may be wrong.
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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owelly
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| posted on 25/4/06 at 05:09 PM |
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There has been much discussion about these changes in PPC mag and I'm sure the official word from DVLA and the grey suit is........
They have no plans to implement any further changes.
I could be wrong as I don't pay too much attention to things that mention such things!!!
I'll have a check...
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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DIY Si
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| posted on 25/4/06 at 05:28 PM |
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If they do, I'm still up the usual.... My car would never pass an sva on emissions alone. Could probably sort it otherwise, but would have to
change the engine to pass.
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 25/4/06 at 05:44 PM |
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i belive this is the case in germany,you have to have an inspection for every item you fit that isnt standard,and all parts have to be aproved and
added to the reg doccument,ive seen a reg doc that looked like a bog roll
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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Simon
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| posted on 25/4/06 at 07:19 PM |
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My retest examiner mentioned this - and thought it was daft. Most of us agree.
A chap from DVLA or VOSA replied to Retro Cars editorial and set record straight - IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
My view - having gone to all the trouble of getting car SVA'd (which I think is a superb method of getting kits etc on the road, unlike previous
method), do you think it reasonable for chav boy to stick an unradiused 1mm thick BTCC type spoiler on his car, that could be used for shredding
paper, let alone people.
Thought not.
ATB
Simon
[Edited on 25/4/06 by Simon]
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Lawnmower
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| posted on 25/4/06 at 08:54 PM |
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take any classic car,
perhaps you change the engne, add disc brakes whatever, get it va cos of this, it then fails sva on lack of seat belts, not emarked lights, any other
design differnces etc.
It has been said a brand new defender will fail an sva.
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jon_boy
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| posted on 25/4/06 at 09:03 PM |
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So if i have modified '72 scimitar would i have needed an SVA?
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Simon
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| posted on 25/4/06 at 09:16 PM |
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Is it PPC who have a chap sticking a Meteor engine in an SD1.
Think his design weight might fail!
I think it would need quite a bit of consideration if gov were to think of introducing it.
ATB
Simon
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cossey
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| posted on 25/4/06 at 10:10 PM |
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it could work if it only covered the new bits eg changing the engine etc but leaving the body as standard you wouldnt have to meet the exterior radius
but even that is more trouble than its worth.
getting them checked by an engineer to say that they have been done in a safe manor might be a good idea to stop some idiot from putting a cossie
engine in an unstrengthed mk1 escort or similar
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02GF74
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 07:44 AM |
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I don't know the full story but someone on an LR forum has put together an LR as well as replaced a v8 with a diesel engine and was told needed
SVA at the MOT (there are other changes - don't have details)
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iank
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 09:33 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
I don't know the full story but someone on an LR forum has put together an LR as well as replaced a v8 with a diesel engine and was told needed
SVA at the MOT (there are other changes - don't have details)
He would need an SVA if he's changed the chassis 'significantly' for example stuck a chopped Range Rover chassis under a Landy.
This has always been the case since they introduced the new rules, but often ignored by the LR hybrid guys, and not enforced by MOT testers coz most
of them don't know or care what an OEM chassis should look like.
But it wouldn't be anything to do with the engine. Even if their were to be new rules about SVA'ing modded classics they aren't in
place yet!
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BKLOCO
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 04:12 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Simon
My view - having gone to all the trouble of getting car SVA'd (which I think is a superb method of getting kits etc on the road, unlike previous
method), do you think it reasonable for chav boy to stick an unradiused 1mm thick BTCC type spoiler on his car, that could be used for shredding
paper, let alone people.
Thought not.
ATB
Simon
I've got to agree here.
I had to take my youngest lad to the tec on Mon night and in the car park was a chav mobile like you wouldn't believe.
The nearest comparrison I could find to describe the wheel trims was Boadicea's charriot. THEY WERE ALL BUT BLOODY KNIVES.
Its time to regulate some of these twats.
It's just unfortunate that some innocent people may get caught up in it.
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want!!! 
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Peteff
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| posted on 26/4/06 at 05:03 PM |
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I've seen Land Rovers, Minis and kits where the only thing left of the original is the registration. Who is going to police a regulation like
this? Will it be left to the MOT station to decide whether you have changed enough of the original to warrant a new test and if you do will it then
need a new identity and be brought into the tax fold again as a lot of the altered vehicles seem to be tax exempt.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Syd Bridge
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| posted on 28/4/06 at 11:36 AM |
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Hi All,
These changes in rules have been in discussion with the govt for years. In that now infamous thread regarding Broken Wishbones, I mentioned that an
Aus type system IS going to come in. Be it in dribs and drabs.
The time will come when ANY modification, no matter how minor, will have to be 'Approved' by a recognised signatory; and your builds will
HAVE to be supervised by a registered engineer. With the online MOT thing, the responsibility will be on the testing station to make sure your car is
the same spec as the sheet that comes up on screen, down to the last little nut and bolt.
The industry only has itself to blame.
Syd.
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James
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| posted on 1/5/06 at 01:21 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by BKLOCO
quote:
Originally posted by Simon
My view - having gone to all the trouble of getting car SVA'd (which I think is a superb method of getting kits etc on the road, unlike previous
method), do you think it reasonable for chav boy to stick an unradiused 1mm thick BTCC type spoiler on his car, that could be used for shredding
paper, let alone people.
Thought not.
ATB
Simon
I've got to agree here.
I had to take my youngest lad to the tec on Mon night and in the car park was a chav mobile like you wouldn't believe.
The nearest comparrison I could find to describe the wheel trims was Boadicea's charriot. THEY WERE ALL BUT BLOODY KNIVES.
Its time to regulate some of these twats.
It's just unfortunate that some innocent people may get caught up in it.
Is stuff like that not already regulated though? You're not allowed sharp projections on the car I thought. (and I don't mean at SVA but
by the Police).
Remember that Rolls that Uri Gellar had with all the bent spoons and stuff stuck on the bodywork? Maybe wrong but I seem to remember he wasn't
allowed that on the road.
Cheers,
James
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