tegwin
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| posted on 11/3/09 at 02:57 PM |
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Gas turbine powered midi?
Ok... this is a hyperthetical(ish) question...
But lets say I wanted to build a midi powered by a gas turbine engine (either driving the wheels directly, or through the use of hydraulics or
electrics)
And assuming I could meet the noise restrictions...
What other problems would I come across at SVA/MOT?
Cooling the exhuast gasses would be an interesting challenge... but I cant see any big issues with using such an engine
It would be quite fun to have a 400shp engine that weighs less than a briefcase full of snickers!
[Edited on 11/3/09 by tegwin]
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r1_pete
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| posted on 11/3/09 at 03:00 PM |
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Only in the USA, but its been done in a Motorcycle
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bilbo
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| posted on 11/3/09 at 03:07 PM |
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It's been done on a Dax.
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Don't think it's road legal though.
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 11/3/09 at 03:18 PM |
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The noise is a big issue though as even a miniature jet engine for R/C planes makes your ears ring. Mixing cool air is easy to sort the exhaust temp
out. Their at best half as efficient on fuel as a conventional engine (the smaller ones use about 5 ltrs for 10 mins use) and suffer from long spool
(especially from idle) and start up times. I'm buying a Jetcat engine for one of my r/c planes in the summer, could push my mountain bike along
and costs £1200, hardly locost option for a mini
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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omega0684
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| posted on 11/3/09 at 03:44 PM |
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the DAX turbine car was gary's own little pet project, it was purely to see what it would be like but its not road legal.
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tegwin
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| posted on 11/3/09 at 03:47 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
The noise is a big issue though as even a miniature jet engine for R/C planes makes your ears ring. Mixing cool air is easy to sort the exhaust temp
out. Their at best half as efficient on fuel as a conventional engine (the smaller ones use about 5 ltrs for 10 mins use) and suffer from long spool
(especially from idle) and start up times. I'm buying a Jetcat engine for one of my r/c planes in the summer, could push my mountain bike along
and costs £1200, hardly locost option for a mini
They are only slow spool up because they are single spool turbines....
A proper turbine... like a small alison helicopter engine would be much more repsonsive... but I agree...less so than an IC engine.... which is why
using Turbine/>electric makes more sence...
Can you imagine an ultima with a turbine engine in it... 
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 11/3/09 at 04:07 PM |
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It's been done in a Rover! A mid-engined variant of the P4 Rover to be precise, sometime in the 1950s. The prototype was in the Science Museum,
last time I went (yonks ago).
They also did a Rover 2000 variant, and a 'proper racer' in collaboration with BRM.
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hughpinder
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| posted on 11/3/09 at 04:25 PM |
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Yep the rover 2000/P6 definitately existed (and thats why its engine bay is the shape is is), I have an old report on it somewhere. If I remember it
could do 0 -110 is one gear. The problems that I can remember where the enormous thirst (a very small number of mpg on kerosene), the 30 seconds it
took the turbine to spin up every time you wanted to accelerate, and the paint getting burnt off the front of the car behind you at the lights!
I'll see if I can dig out that report.
Regards
Hugh
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BenB
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| posted on 11/3/09 at 04:45 PM |
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The main problems are indeed noise, heat and spool-up time.
Having a turbine driven electric motor would seem a nice solution though that would be a massively powerful regulator to control power to the electric
motor.....
As I recall the Turbine p6 had to have massive amounts of heat-proofing material in the engine bay to prevent everything from melting....
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Simon
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| posted on 12/3/09 at 01:39 AM |
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The only reason they take a while to spool up is because they are like a massive turbo.
Now, imagine having half a dozen small ones - quick spool up, use maybe only one or two for cruising rest for blatting - on call so to speak.
Exhaust noise and temp would be easy fixes.
Very efficirent from what I gather, so emissions shouldn't present too much of a prob. Even then, always aim for a Q.
Volvo also did research into g/t cars about 15/20 years ago.
ATB
Simon
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ettore bugatti
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| posted on 16/3/09 at 12:22 AM |
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Jay Leno is building one.
GM styled body
custom chassis
Corvette C5 suspension and transaxle (Automatic)
Please look at his site "jay leno's garage"
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 16/3/09 at 04:45 AM |
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I take it from the links this isn't a jet engine like on fighter planes, so what is it?
0-225 in 15 seconds though? Want one
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Broekens
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| posted on 26/3/09 at 07:48 PM |
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I think it is a great idea. I remember from one of my lectures that the amount of sound a jet engine makes is proportionally to speed to the power
eight. Making a huge damper would certainly work
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