omega0684
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| posted on 24/7/09 at 04:43 PM |
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V6 Vs V6
3.0 Alfa V6 Vs Cosworth V6
pro and cons on each please
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eccsmk
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| posted on 24/7/09 at 04:47 PM |
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im not a specialist on these engines
but
the cosworth one will be better due the the cosworth badge
 :p :p
(sorry for the rubbish reply)
[Edited on 24/7/09 by eccsmk]
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richardh
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| posted on 24/7/09 at 04:48 PM |
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cossie
Time for a change!
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mookaloid
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| posted on 24/7/09 at 04:54 PM |
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Alfa - ally block so lighter, the 3.2 has 250 BHP - also looks stunning
Cossie - Iron Block I think, only 200BHP and heavy ugly thing 
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 24/7/09 at 05:13 PM |
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if its a cosworth GAA , then i would think cossie too .
otherwise its the alfa .
www.dbsmotorsport.co.uk
getting dirty under a bus
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gazza285
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| posted on 24/7/09 at 05:17 PM |
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GAA? Not exactly two a penny these days.
DO NOT PUT ON KNOB OR BOLLOCKS!
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Guinness
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| posted on 24/7/09 at 05:25 PM |
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The mad beating heart of a tempramental Italian anyday!
(But then I don't have to service it / put up with any potential un-reliabilty issues!)
Mike
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t16turbotone
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| posted on 24/7/09 at 06:06 PM |
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choose the cossie, if you want to reach the end of your drive without it breaking
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MikeR
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| posted on 24/7/09 at 06:26 PM |
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Ah but is it better to break at the end of your drive or at the end of a run?
I think i'd take end of the drive if the end of the run is south of France!
maybe.
Ask Claire - she's got one and seems to like it so much she's bought a car with one fitted.
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 24/7/09 at 08:31 PM |
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Alfa (should have done a poll  )
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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NeilP
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| posted on 24/7/09 at 08:40 PM |
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I might be just a little biased in this
BOA with BOB cams, nice clean air and exhaust, uprated injectors and fuel pressure regulator and an atermarket ECU and you would be well north of
300bhp for notta lotta wonga...
If you pay peanuts...
Mentale, yar? Yar, mentale!
Drive it like you stole it!
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SPYDER
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| posted on 24/7/09 at 08:44 PM |
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I would choose the Alfa. Out of interest, what gearbox can you mate it to in RWD format?
Claire's V6 is a Mazda, an entirely different kettle of fish. As indeed is Claire.
Geoff.
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owelly
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| posted on 24/7/09 at 08:59 PM |
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Claires V6 is in an Alfa 164 and is an Alfa!!
I would choose and Alfa because I did and it cost me -£8.
[Edited on 24/7/09 by owelly]
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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omega0684
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| posted on 24/7/09 at 09:06 PM |
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you are all wrong.....lol, well kinda
claire's fury has a ford probe V6 in it, the ford/ mazda engine.
claire's alfa 164 has the alfa V6 in it
OWELLY where on gods green earth did you get an alfa V6 for £8! u2u me your secrets!
[Edited on 24/7/09 by omega0684]
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owelly
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| posted on 24/7/09 at 09:16 PM |
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A 164 donor car cost us £42 off Ebay. We sold £30 worth of spares and cashed the rest in for £20. The engine cost -£8!!!
Keep looking on Ebay (a search for ALPHA sometimes finds hidden cars!) and also in the local Ad-mag type papers.
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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omega0684
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| posted on 24/7/09 at 09:24 PM |
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did you have the engine reconditioned at all?
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jpindy3
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| posted on 24/7/09 at 09:27 PM |
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cossie,so much more reliyable also if you turbo it you can twin turbo it mega power.
but you wont need to do that,
cossie good for 300hp or more
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ss1turbo
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| posted on 24/7/09 at 09:44 PM |
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Normally i'm the Ford camp, but it's no contest..the Alfa V6 has often been called the best sounding engine ever made. Both kick out
about 200bhp; lob a Megasquirt on it and thats the remains of the italian electrics removed...leaving just a jewel of an engine.
Long live RWD...
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GrumpyOne
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| posted on 24/7/09 at 09:58 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by NeilP
I might be just a little biased in this
BOA with BOB cams, nice clean air and exhaust, uprated injectors and fuel pressure regulator and an atermarket ECU and you would be well north of
300bhp for notta lotta wonga...
I'm using the V6 BOB engine but I am having serious doubts about it and considering the combination Neil suggests. Spares for the BOB are scarce
to say the least and very very expensive if you are lucky enough to find them. If I was you I would go for the BOA BOB combo.
Colin
PS Don't even ask about the gearbox conversion £350 and counting.
[Edited on 24/7/09 by GrumpyOne]
My wife is very understanding, she understands that if I am in the garage I am not in the house annoying her.
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jpindy3
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| posted on 24/7/09 at 10:01 PM |
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the cossie parts carnt be any harder to find than the alfas
[Edited on 24/7/09 by jpindy3]
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jpindy3
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| posted on 24/7/09 at 10:02 PM |
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alex is the pinto getting the boot???
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GrumpyOne
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| posted on 24/7/09 at 10:04 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jpindy3
the cossie parts carnt be any harder to find than the alfas
[Edited on 24/7/09 by jpindy3]
The timing gear (chain etc) is non existent for the BOB, I have managed to find four of the five parts needed and so far it has cost me nearly £600
and the chain will cost another £250 if I can find one.
My wife is very understanding, she understands that if I am in the garage I am not in the house annoying her.
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SPYDER
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| posted on 24/7/09 at 10:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by owelly
Claires V6 is in an Alfa 164 and is an Alfa!!
I would choose and Alfa because I did and it cost me -£8.
[Edited on 24/7/09 by owelly]
I stand corrected. I was confusing Claire and Clairetoo.
I think.
Sorry.
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omega0684
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| posted on 24/7/09 at 10:18 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jpindy3
alex is the pinto getting the boot???
no no my friend, i thinking on for project number 2! don't know where im going to build it yet though? i need to convince dad to extend the
garage to a double
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ss1turbo
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| posted on 24/7/09 at 10:27 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by GrumpyOne
quote:
Originally posted by jpindy3
the cossie parts carnt be any harder to find than the alfas
[Edited on 24/7/09 by jpindy3]
The timing gear (chain etc) is non existent for the BOB, I have managed to find four of the five parts needed and so far it has cost me nearly £600
and the chain will cost another £250 if I can find one.
Therein lyeth the problem with the "Cosworth" V6 - lack of parts (tuning let alone normal parts). The Alfa V6 has been around since god
was in short trousers in one form or another. Whilst the UK may not have agreat deal, I bet Italian ebay will be awash with stuff...
One thing to remember - the Cossie V6 was ONLY used in the Scorpio, whereas the Alfa lump has been used in 15x and 16x Alfas (and older ones like the
90) for a looong time..
Long live RWD...
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