gazzarose
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| posted on 31/10/09 at 01:17 PM |
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Advice on buying needed!!!
Right,as per the Luton thread, the father in law has been to see the car. He forgot to ask what it was, but its 95 ish on a 'N', with a
1500 Dolomite engine that according to the guy is 120 bhp. I don't know anything about cars that were made before me, so is the Dolly engine any
good?
My father in law is gonna give me the pics on Sunday night,so I'll post them here to see if anyonr knows what it is. All he knows is its black
with the swoopy front wings (don't know what they're called). Could these be changed to cycle wings, as Im not that fussed on the fixed
wings, if not then its no biggie, I just want it to tie me over til I save up for a Indy R kit.
The guy wants 1500 quid for it. Is this a good deal? I don't know anything about used kit cars so any help will be greatly appreciated.
Regards
Gazza
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 31/10/09 at 01:28 PM |
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Possibly one of the early Robin hoods? IIRC some were Dolly based
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big_wasa
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| posted on 31/10/09 at 01:35 PM |
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What are the early duttons bassed on ?
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BenB
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| posted on 31/10/09 at 01:43 PM |
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The Dolomite sprint engines are quite good- first 16v engine in the UK IIRC....
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BenB
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| posted on 31/10/09 at 01:47 PM |
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Just checked- ain't a Sprint engine if it's a 1500 (as they were 1998cc and even then they didn't make 150Bhp except in the test lab
at the Triumph factory).
The original 1500 Triumph engine made 65(ish) BHP on a good day.....
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mark chandler
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| posted on 31/10/09 at 01:47 PM |
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1500 Dolomite engine is a weezy old thing from times gone by, they shoved them in then later spitfires and 1500cc mg midgets.... nothing like the
clever 2.0 sprint engine.
It is hard to see one making 80bhp, to break 100bhp would be pushing it to the limit.
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BenB
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| posted on 31/10/09 at 01:50 PM |
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http://club.triumph.org.uk/cgi-bin/cars/clubcars.cgi?printrecord=1041536906-9380.0
says the Dolomite 1500HL made 71Bhp.
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gazzarose
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| posted on 31/10/09 at 02:19 PM |
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I think i'l have to try and get the email address of the guy selling it and try and get some better details.
So do we think its worth 1500 quid? If it works would it ever be worth any less. ie If i keep it for a year could I sell it and get my money back?
Thanks for the replies
Gazza
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Danozeman
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| posted on 31/10/09 at 02:33 PM |
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At 1500 quid it would be a good base for you to work with to modify if you didnt like it.
Gotta be a dutton or robin hood. Might have that sliding pilar suspension if its a hood though.
Dan
Built the purple peril!! Let the modifications begin!!
http://www.eastangliankitcars.co.uk
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gazzarose
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| posted on 31/10/09 at 02:49 PM |
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whats the sliding suspension about? Does that mean it wont have moving wishbones? Hopefully i'l be able to see on the pics.
I think if its 2 slow, hopefully I could swap it for a OHV or pinto (don't know what side the exhaust is), and like I said, its only temporary
until I save up to build a Duratec Indy R, but the way I'm spending money trying to do up my house It might be a while, so this car may be a bit
less temporary,lol.
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Grimsdale
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| posted on 31/10/09 at 03:53 PM |
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i can guarantee it wont have sliding pillocks fitted if it's a dolly based RH.
If it is, it is probably a stainless monocoque, some of the later models had a tendency to crack but nothing you can't fix fairly easily,
don't know about the dolly based one.
Should be worth the money, might make a profit if you chuck a pinto in.
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austin man
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| posted on 31/10/09 at 04:42 PM |
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You could always replace the running gear with a duratec then swap it over when you can afford the Indy, at least the engine and running gear will be
a known entity to you when you move it across. Refit the Dolly unit and sell the car on again
Life is like a bowl of fruit, funny how all the weird looking ones are left alone
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britishtrident
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| posted on 31/10/09 at 05:56 PM |
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Both Dutton and very early Robin Hood used Triumph bits
Dutton used Triumph Herald front and rear suspension but generaly Ford engines..
First Robin Hoods used the Triumph 1500/Toledo/Dolomite front suspension ----- really not roadworthy as the bottom ball joint not suitable for
spring loads --- potentially lethal .
16 valve slant 4 dolly engine was ******* Dreadful
8 valve slant 4 wasn't great -- half a Stag engine not good.
1500 was a long stroke version the Triumph Herald engine suffered badly from bottom end problems --- big ends, little ends, crank thrust washers.
1300 was the Triumph Herald 13/60 engine --- good engine.
Gearboxes in all version were the same box as used in the Morris Marina -- nuff said.
[Edited on 31/10/09 by britishtrident]
[Edited on 31/10/09 by britishtrident]
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 31/10/09 at 06:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by BenB
The Dolomite sprint engines are quite good- first 16v engine in the UK IIRC....
Sorry to disillusion you but I had to deal with them back in the 1970s it was a botched engine design even in 8 valve form. First time I stripped
the head off one I understood instantly why the Dolomite ans Stag engine were notorious head gasket blowers ----- a really basic major design
error.
Don't believe a quarter of the stuff written in classic car mags
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 31/10/09 at 07:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
quote:
Originally posted by BenB
The Dolomite sprint engines are quite good- first 16v engine in the UK IIRC....
Sorry to disillusion you but I had to deal with them back in the 1970s it was a botched engine design even in 8 valve form. First time I stripped
the head off one I understood instantly why the Dolomite ans Stag engine were notorious head gasket blowers ----- a really basic major design
error.
Don't believe a quarter of the stuff written in classic car mags
That makes the K series seem almost historic
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gazzarose
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| posted on 1/11/09 at 05:35 PM |
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Hi guys,
Got the pics off my father in law, and it turns out its on a W first time round not N like he said, think he got confused about how to read old
plates,lol.
pic 1
pic 2
pic 3
pic 4
Can anyone identify it from the pics? Anyone see anything obviously wrong?So is it worth 1500 quid?
I just don't know what to do, excited and scared at the same time,lol.
Gazza
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morcus
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| posted on 2/11/09 at 02:01 AM |
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If you do buy it fit a roll bar before you use it, and i would rip out that bench and fit propper seats.
I don't know what it is, but it needs alot of work by the look of it.
Tarted up you could probably make a good profit on it, i imagine there are alot of people out there who want a seven type car that know litterally
nothing and would go based on how it looked and drove.
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franky
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| posted on 2/11/09 at 07:48 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
Both Dutton and very early Robin Hood used Triumph bits
Dutton used Triumph Herald front and rear suspension but generaly Ford engines..
First Robin Hoods used the Triumph 1500/Toledo/Dolomite front suspension ----- really not roadworthy as the bottom ball joint not suitable for
spring loads --- potentially lethal .
16 valve slant 4 dolly engine was ******* Dreadful
8 valve slant 4 wasn't great -- half a Stag engine not good.
1500 was a long stroke version the Triumph Herald engine suffered badly from bottom end problems --- big ends, little ends, crank thrust washers.
1300 was the Triumph Herald 13/60 engine --- good engine.
Gearboxes in all version were the same box as used in the Morris Marina -- nuff said.
[Edited on 31/10/09 by britishtrident]
[Edited on 31/10/09 by britishtrident]
I had a dolomite sprint and with a bit of tlc and a few parts it was a great engine, especially for its time, twin chokes and a rally cam
It was quicker than as a escort RS turbo
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