atkin
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posted on 17/5/11 at 05:40 PM |
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Which Kit? Indy R or Zero
Getting closer to buying my kit, in 2 mind between the MK Indy R and the GBS Zero. Both companies are fairly close to me (close enough to take a
random driver over on a saturday morning).
Which chassis do people think are best?
I am leaning towards car engined car (Honda S2000 engine) but do quite like the idea of a BEC.
Help me out guys!
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daniel mason
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posted on 17/5/11 at 05:48 PM |
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i would personally go for the indy if those are your 2 options and the s2000 engine. mk have done a few s2000 cars. personally i went for the mnr with
the same engine as i prefer it. if you need any info regarding the install feel free to ask.
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Stuart_B
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posted on 17/5/11 at 05:51 PM |
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hi there, i would go indy r over the zero, but i am biased in to the mk
great motor the s2000 is.
stu
black mk indy, 1.6pinto on cbr600 bike carb's.
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noc231073
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posted on 17/5/11 at 06:03 PM |
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Don't know much about the zero but I've just built an Mk and I wouldn't do it again nightmare customer services
Now after Its built I had so many barneys with them I can't even pick up the phone to order parts as they won't entertain me
So not much good really .. Having no aftersales service... And I am not the only one you has had loads of problems
There's quite a few guys on here that have had similar problems with them
Search the Mk forums topics
[Edited on 17/5/11 by noc231073]
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INDY BIRD
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posted on 17/5/11 at 06:05 PM |
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MK Indy
great car and if you ever do sell it i would probably say resale value would be more?
but depends on your budget i guess and what you will use it for,
mk every day for track and occ road use
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AndyW
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posted on 17/5/11 at 06:16 PM |
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Visit GBS factory, speak with Richard and the guys in the workshop. Then visit MK and compare the two. Remember, they should want your money and
repeat business.
Customer service after you have got the kit is the most important thing.
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SeanStone
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posted on 17/5/11 at 06:20 PM |
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gbs are the company who bought robin hood arent they? it was my understand their chassis' were pretty terrible, so definitely the mk. though i
would have a look at mnr or something from raw as there have been so many stories of terrible service from mk.
great choice on the s2000 motor btw. when you're ready, whack a supercharger on and you've got 350hp on standard internals ![](/images//smilies/smile.gif)
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James
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posted on 17/5/11 at 06:22 PM |
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As an owner of neither of them I would say that currently the GBS, The MK and the MNR appear to be the current 3 best cars out there.
Would be madness not to visit each factory or, go to a big show and see all three at the same place!
All of the above 3 have their pros and cons and it'll be hard to get a non-biased opinion on here.
Hope that helps,
James
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40inches
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posted on 17/5/11 at 06:23 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by SeanStone
gbs are the company who bought robin hood arent they? it was my understand their chassis' were pretty terrible, so definitely the mk. though i
would have a look at mnr or something from raw as there have been so many stories of terrible service from mk.
great choice on the s2000 motor btw. when you're ready, whack a supercharger on and you've got 350hp on standard internals
The Zero is a totally different car to the Robin Hood, and good value for the kit.
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StevieB
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posted on 17/5/11 at 06:28 PM |
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Indy R is a more technically advanced design than the Zero (inboard front suspension for one).
However, the Zero is probably a more cost effective build and a bit of time on chassis setup would make up the difference.
So, if it was me making the choice I'd choose between the Zero and Aries Locothingy (just to confuse the matter )
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MikeRJ
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posted on 17/5/11 at 06:29 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by SeanStone
gbs are the company who bought robin hood arent they? it was my understand their chassis' were pretty terrible, so definitely the mk.
Sadly this kind of thinking is going to take GBS a long time to shake off, despite selling a very decent kit ![](/images//smilies/sad.gif)
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daniel mason
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posted on 17/5/11 at 06:34 PM |
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that engine wont go in an aries chassis i dont think or any of the raw cars. its a big lump!
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AndyW
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posted on 17/5/11 at 06:38 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote: Originally posted by SeanStone
gbs are the company who bought robin hood arent they? it was my understand their chassis' were pretty terrible, so definitely the mk.
Sadly this kind of thinking is going to take GBS a long time to shake off, despite selling a very decent kit
Very true.
I am biased towards GBS as Im building one, but what really gets me is the OP asks a question and then people steer them towards a certain make (and
clearly away from another) without any dealings with that company. Nor any dealings with the company who they "understand" to make dodgy
chassis.
My advise is visit both. I did. Ask them loads of questions. Be on there case as a potential customer. See who really wants you to come back or just
wants the order. Customer service and after care is more important to me than following the crowd. I am 100% happy witht the choice I made.
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StevieB
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posted on 17/5/11 at 06:49 PM |
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^^^^^^^^^ I quite agree.
Most of the basic chassis' available are much of a muchness, with a few fancy things like inboard suspension thrown in here and there.
The fact is that as long as there construction is decent and accurate, and the customer service is there, then I would make my choice based on price
just about every time. If I wanted to spend more money on something, I'd buy a second hand Caterham and not something perceived (but not
necessarily) of better quality.
The Zero looks great value and with time spent setting up the geometry, I'd defy most people to find a discernable difference between that and
any other se7en at the entry end of the market (in fact in back to back testing on track, we found my R1 Indy to have far more grip and better
handling than my mates very sorted S2 Lotus 7 Fireblade - because we spent an age with spirit levels, tape measues and string getting it set up just
right).
[Edited on 17/5/11 by StevieB]
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lotusmadandy
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posted on 17/5/11 at 07:00 PM |
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It would have to be the indy for me,everytime.I have bought
two indy's,on both occasions and whenever i have called them,the
customer service was excellent.
Andy
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femster87
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posted on 17/5/11 at 07:18 PM |
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Zero for me mate, nothing wrong with the chassis at all. it has been quite easy and fun to build. Alot of help form Richard and the crew. I have on
several occasions just turned up at the factory and collected parts I need. So do visit them before you choose. Am in scunthorpe not too far from you,
if you want to have a look at the zero, feel free. I have a zetec in mine.
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DRC INDY 7
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posted on 17/5/11 at 07:23 PM |
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Mk indy
and i have had dealings with robin hood/GBS aka richard hall
https://www.facebook.com/groups/462610273778799/
Puddle Dodgers Club
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Hellfire
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posted on 17/5/11 at 07:27 PM |
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Engine first and then choose a manufacturers chassis to house the bike engine. BEC all the way S2000 is a cracking engine but bang for bucks
the BEC will generally be cheaper.
Phil
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franky
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posted on 17/5/11 at 07:37 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Hellfire
Engine first and then choose a manufacturers chassis to house the bike engine. BEC all the way S2000 is a cracking engine but bang for bucks
the BEC will generally be cheaper.
Phil
He could fit a m3 engine for less than £1200, thats cheaper than a bike engine![](/images//smilies/wink.gif)
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Hellfire
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posted on 17/5/11 at 07:42 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by franky
quote: Originally posted by Hellfire
Engine first and then choose a manufacturers chassis to house the bike engine. BEC all the way S2000 is a cracking engine but bang for bucks
the BEC will generally be cheaper.
Phil
He could fit a m3 engine for less than £1200, thats cheaper than a bike engine
Depends which bike engine..... ![](/images//smilies/tongue.gif) ![](/images//smilies/tongue.gif)
Phil
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DRC INDY 7
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posted on 17/5/11 at 07:44 PM |
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nissan 200 sx turbo engine only cost me £400 to do the conversion
https://www.facebook.com/groups/462610273778799/
Puddle Dodgers Club
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franky
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posted on 17/5/11 at 08:00 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Hellfire
quote: Originally posted by franky
quote: Originally posted by Hellfire
Engine first and then choose a manufacturers chassis to house the bike engine. BEC all the way S2000 is a cracking engine but bang for bucks
the BEC will generally be cheaper.
Phil
He could fit a m3 engine for less than £1200, thats cheaper than a bike engine
Depends which bike engine..... ![](/images//smilies/tongue.gif) ![](/images//smilies/tongue.gif)
Phil
Ok, as an install cost against a honda c90 motor![](/images//smilies/bigsmile.gif)
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daniel mason
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posted on 17/5/11 at 08:12 PM |
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by the time you fit a reverse box,power commander and clocks it still could be more^^^^ lol!
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T Rex
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posted on 17/5/11 at 08:15 PM |
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MK every time, i have known these People since 2001 and have built 2 indys, i have introduced at least 5 friends and all have had a very good
experience with the team i have visited them at random and they sent out for cakes and have always got time for a chat so in my personal experience
they are stars.
Now i would advise you to visit all these manufactures, all of us has a perticular thing that we like about these cars ie, the body fit, Chassis
design,welds, Triangulation, bang for buck, find out what floats your boat. Then talk to them all and see if you can work with them, and make your
decision from that.
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austin man
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posted on 17/5/11 at 08:23 PM |
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Mk Indy For me remember you could go Indy as well the Indy R, the R is the more advanced design the Indy still a good handling car. Cant say anything
for or against the Zero as had no dealings with them
Life is like a bowl of fruit, funny how all the weird looking ones are left alone
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