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carnage_uk

posted on 3/8/04 at 02:56 PM Reply With Quote
I'm new and need help!!

Rite first... Hiya all as I'm new to the site

I'm 15, almost 16 and looking for a automotive project, I've already replaced the engine in my last car and have a fair bit of knowlegge.

Basicaly I am looking at building a locost and wanted some questions answering.

1) What's the cheapest you can build a locost for not including the price of the engine/transmission?

2) Can they be road legal? If so what tests do they have to pass?

3) Can a car engine such as the K-series be used as I already have a spare wiring loom, ecu, gearbox and block.

4) Is it dificult to build and is there any specialist tools needed?

Cheers

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carnage_uk

posted on 3/8/04 at 03:04 PM Reply With Quote
also the kit I'm looking at is the stuart taylor locoblade.
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phelpsa

posted on 3/8/04 at 03:06 PM Reply With Quote
1) Probably £800-£1000 if you build the chassis yourself.

2)Yes, they have to pass SVA (single vehicle aproval) and MOT (can't remember what that stands for).

3) Yes, as you probably know, caterham use these engines and they can be had from 1.1-1.8 VVC.

4) there are plenty of specialist tools needed, welder, rivet gun etc. (can't be bothered to type them all out but you will find out when you start your build).

Adam

(p.s. I am 13)






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phelpsa

posted on 3/8/04 at 03:07 PM Reply With Quote
Stuart Taylor Locoblade, the cheapest would probably be around £4000 fully built, my car has an ST IRS rear end.

Adam






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ned

posted on 3/8/04 at 03:08 PM Reply With Quote
MOT = Ministry of Transport

Ned.





beware, I've got yellow skin

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phelpsa

posted on 3/8/04 at 03:09 PM Reply With Quote


Adam






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carnage_uk

posted on 3/8/04 at 03:15 PM Reply With Quote
Wow 13 I've been into cars seriously since about that age but never had the balls to do sumin like that, well done, Also you must have balls of steel to race a gsrx1100 hillclimber at that age.

Why would you say the stuart taylor would be that expensive? The chassis is £500, same again for the body pannels. Then it's just hubs, suspension and brakes. I already have driveshafts and bucket seats. Also it would probably be the 1.6k for road use 130-140bhp is enough for me!

Would you reccomend any other make of locost?

Cheers Pete

[Edited on 3/8/04 by carnage_uk]

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stephen_gusterson

posted on 3/8/04 at 03:17 PM Reply With Quote
but its not actually been called that for years

its summat like

HM vehicle inspectorate certificate of road worthyness

or similar

atb

mr pedantic


btw- its easy to spend nearer 3k on a locost..........if your not really careful, or are in the lest bit picky

can be done tho!

[Edited on 3/8/04 by stephen_gusterson]






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phelpsa

posted on 3/8/04 at 03:25 PM Reply With Quote
That would be completely on the road, wheels, tyres, interior, lights etc. run up a huge bill aswell. I would go for a ZX9R engine if I were going ST, talk to colibriman about cheap bike engines. The K-series is a good idea though, very light and tuneable.

My car isn't finished yet (well, not even at rolling chassis) so it should be ready by the time I am 16 (old enough to have my racing liscence). I am putting the gsxr 1100 engine in it because it is quite possibly the most tunable bike engine you can get, turbo kits, big bore blocks (1500cc!!!) and many other things.

Adam

P.S. I have been into anything with wheels or an engine since I was about 5, I have had a quad bike (which I wasn't that bad at) and in the end persuded my dad to buy me a set of bits and a part built chassis.

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JoelP

posted on 3/8/04 at 03:43 PM Reply With Quote
your dad rocks adam! mine bought me a hacksaw when i was 13, yours got you started on a kit car!






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phelpsa

posted on 3/8/04 at 03:46 PM Reply With Quote
Yes, but I had to buy the hacksaw

Adam






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derf

posted on 3/8/04 at 04:02 PM Reply With Quote
You lucky bastards, my dad made me stay away from his tools completely, let alone let have a hacksaw. I got my first licence when I was 16, then moved from New York City to NJ 3 months after that, where they wont issue you a liscence until your 17, and even then your only allowed to drive between like 630 am and 1000pm, with no passengers under the age of 21 (crock of horse pooh it is), and I really didnt start to get into cars until I moved down to Georgia when I was 19, and had already been driving for 3 years.
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phelpsa

posted on 3/8/04 at 04:05 PM Reply With Quote
Not even a junior hacksaw

Adam






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Cita

posted on 3/8/04 at 04:06 PM Reply With Quote
My dad not allowed me to even look at his "tool"
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theconrodkid

posted on 3/8/04 at 04:21 PM Reply With Quote
oi derf,we arnt lucky,you have cheap fuel and V8,s we have speed cameras and beirut stylie dirt tracks for roads





who cares who wins
pass the pork pies

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phelpsa

posted on 3/8/04 at 04:38 PM Reply With Quote
You don't have corners

Adam






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derf

posted on 3/8/04 at 07:05 PM Reply With Quote
wanna bet we have corners, you try going in a straight line anywhere (except for major highways, granted they arnt much of turns, but they are there, plus if you know the right road you can really have lots of fun.

Plus I plan to race in SoloI, in the PA Hill Climb Series, almost looks like these guys might have some fun!

Oh yeh, cheap fuel (it's still cheaper than by you guys, haha!!!) I'm paying over $2.00US a gallon, about $1.20UK, V8's, all we have are antiquated pushrod engines, yes they make power, but they are heavy and huge, and eat fuel, give me a turbo 4 anyday

[Edited on 3/8/04 by derf]

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theconrodkid

posted on 3/8/04 at 07:19 PM Reply With Quote
now thanks to the chineese fuel prices are going up again





who cares who wins
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Peteff

posted on 3/8/04 at 07:46 PM Reply With Quote
They need it for their cigarette lighters .





yours, Pete

I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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timf

posted on 4/8/04 at 07:36 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by derf
I'm paying over $2.00US a gallon, about $1.20UK[Edited on 3/8/04 by derf]


yeah but its not a proper gallon

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theconrodkid

posted on 4/8/04 at 07:38 AM Reply With Quote
i think like most thangs american a US gallon is bigger





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David Jenkins

posted on 4/8/04 at 07:55 AM Reply With Quote
The US gallon is smaller... because their pint is smaller... 16 fl.oz. instead of 20 fl.oz.

David

[Edited on 4/8/04 by David Jenkins]






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theconrodkid

posted on 4/8/04 at 08:57 AM Reply With Quote
k





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stressy

posted on 4/8/04 at 07:48 PM Reply With Quote
Kseries in ST

Hi Pete,
I reckon K series is a good plan. Any k in a locost will go V.well.
As a word of caution, i have never seen one fitted in a ST chassis, you may find it pokes rather high out of the bonnet, cos although its a VERY light engine its quite tall and also quite wide at the bottom end. ( you have one so you know what shape it is)

The other things to bear in mind are that you will need a bellhousing, clutch arm, starter etc...not a problem but it will cost a few quid.

You may also find that to get it tested and approved for road use (Single vehicle approval test) you need to fit the cat. Again not a huge problem but wrth considering.

Anyways mate, hope this is helpful, good luck.

Cheers

Chris

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phelpsa

posted on 5/8/04 at 11:01 AM Reply With Quote
You'll need one of these:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=72205&item=7914647453&rd=1

Adam






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