punker
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| posted on 11/6/02 at 07:47 AM |
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which sierra???
i'm currently selling my scirocco to get a sierra for the wife to use while i get the chassis built, what i need to know is (as i'm planning a IRS
locost) which sierra should i go for? what age? which engine? which gearbox?......any help would be appreciated. thanks ben
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interestedparty
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| posted on 11/6/02 at 10:27 AM |
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I think the consensus is that the 2litre SOHC pinto engine is the one to have. I think these all came with 5speed boxes. In selecting a donor I would
be looking for good mechanical condition and regular servicing, ideally a low ownership, rather than any specific features. Some people favour the
rear disc versions but I don't believe this is necessary, the drums work just fine in Locost scenarios. Getting a basic version will usually mean
simple loom mods, less wires to trace/remove.
In the end I expect it will come down to what good condition cars are available. I bought a non-runner recently (not a Sierra), I'll avoid doing that
again unless the price is too good to miss
John
As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I've got a little list-- I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed-- who never would be missed!
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punker
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 posted on 11/6/02 at 10:49 AM |
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thanks. dont suppose you know what years the 2.0 pinto was used?
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bob
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| posted on 11/6/02 at 06:06 PM |
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Y reg to E reg 
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James
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| posted on 17/6/02 at 02:47 PM |
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I guess maybe the carb' 2.0 ran only until then but the injection SOHC certainly was used for longer.
For a start mine is 1989 'F' reg and that is the first year that Sierra's had the '205' SOHC Pinto engine.
For a picture see
http://www.btinternet.com/~megatron/part6-pic8.jpg
And I'm sure the injection SOHC carried on for a couple of years- I have a feeling until 1992 although I'm willing to be corrected!
:-)
hth,
James
BTW, the build history on this excellent website only runs until April last year- anyone know if 'Ironman' ever finished his Locost?
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bob
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| posted on 17/6/02 at 04:30 PM |
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After E reg there was a mix n match,could be pinto,cvh,dohc.
So the easy way is to look under the bonnet i suppose.
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punker
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| posted on 18/6/02 at 09:57 AM |
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is there much of a problem using a dohc engine? and is there any probs using a saphire as a donor?
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James
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| posted on 18/6/02 at 01:11 PM |
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As John (Interested Party) wrote in reply to your first post:
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I think the consensus is that the 2litre SOHC pinto engine is the one to have.
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There's differing opinion on the quality of the DOHC engine- many people I've heard say it sucks but others have been more complimentary.
I think one of the main deciding factors is that it's even bigger (and heavier!) than the Pinto (which is saying something!) and so is probably
harder to fit under the bonnet and it's extra weight may well mean it has lower power:weight than the Pinto too.
I've used a Sapphire and it seems fine.
HTH,
James
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punker
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| posted on 18/6/02 at 03:27 PM |
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punker
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| posted on 18/6/02 at 03:28 PM |
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cheers
ben
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jmbillings
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| posted on 29/6/02 at 11:27 AM |
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Hey, Ben, you sound like the Ben that is Steve Briance's mate... did he give you the pics from Newark yet?
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Cheffy
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| posted on 10/7/02 at 11:19 PM |
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Further to the original question of which Sierra? Are there any particular problems with using the XR4i, only I've been offered one with good engine
and running gear but knackered body. In particular, would there be any special difficulties fitting the V6 engine.
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Max
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| posted on 11/7/02 at 08:01 AM |
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Which Sierra's have discs at the back with LSD? (Suitable to fit to a MK Indy chassis)
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bob
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| posted on 11/7/02 at 08:05 AM |
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Max
The 4x4s are LSD,there is one for sale on this list if you hurry
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Max
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| posted on 11/7/02 at 02:38 PM |
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Cheers Bob,
Sadly it'll have to wait for the minute as I'm moving house and I've promised by better half not to buy any more cars/car stuff before we move.
Ta for the info!
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Fatboy Dave
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| posted on 11/7/02 at 02:55 PM |
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quote:
Further to the original question of which Sierra? Are there any particular problems with using the XR4i,
A few problems there Cheffy. The XR4i, despite being an XR, has an open diff and drum brakes (which kinda defeats the point a bit). The gearbox has a
170mm input shaft, compared to the normal 150mm jobbie, which means that you are either going to put the engine forward or the box back in the
chassis, neither of which is really good (assuming you want to use a pinto engine).
As for fitting the V6, well, it can and has been done, it makes a great noise (and I REALLY like the motor), but the problem here is that it weighs an
absoloute ton, and in standard form, it's a bit stingy with the power it produces.
There's nowt to stop you using it though, it'll still make a pretty nippy(tm) car that'll happily urinate all over most things at the traffic light
GP
Dave
Stop the planet, I want to get off
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Cheffy
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| posted on 11/7/02 at 03:09 PM |
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Thanks Dave.
I hear what you're saying about the weight factor, but as you say, you can't beat the noise of a 'V'. Think this is the way I'm gonna go,
especially if it's gonna keep things simple for my first build.
Being a complete novice at this, can you tell me what 'open diff' means, does it mean 'standard' diff as opposed to limited slip diff? Also, I've
read on a couple of other posts that it is not really essential to have discs all round on a locost, so presumably a could use the drums off the donor
car.
Thanks in advance for any further help.
Mart
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punker
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| posted on 14/8/02 at 12:19 PM |
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J.billings.....yes i am that mate of stuffers.
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interestedparty
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| posted on 14/8/02 at 03:06 PM |
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quote:
Being a complete novice at this, can you tell me what 'open diff' means, does it mean 'standard' diff as opposed to limited slip diff? Also, I've
read on a couple of other posts that it is not really essential to have discs all round on a locost, so presumably a could use the drums off the donor
car.
Open diff = standard diff
Read discs are not necessary in a locost as the fronts do the majority of the braking. They do look nicer through your 5-spoke wheels, though.
John
As some day it may happen that a victim must be found,
I've got a little list-- I've got a little list
Of society offenders who might well be underground,
And who never would be missed-- who never would be missed!
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johnston
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| posted on 14/8/02 at 07:15 PM |
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remember if the bodyworks knackered or the struts/bushes etc are fecked it doesnt matter u dont need them so dont say why u really want it and use
those things as points to get the price down
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 14/8/02 at 09:18 PM |
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quote:
As for fitting the V6, well, it can and has been done, it makes a great noise (and I REALLY like the motor), but the problem here is that it weighs an
absoloute ton, and in standard form, it's a bit stingy with the power it produces.
My car has a v6 cologne from a 2.4 litre e reg granada. 130hp as std. the 2.9 version has 150. comes with a type 9 box and not too bad to fit.
you can see pics of it on TOL if you are interested
atb
steve
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