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DarrenW

posted on 11/11/08 at 10:45 AM Reply With Quote
interesting site.

http://www.hbc.co.uk/index.html


There is a cheap Seat in Teesside at the mo.






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Omni

posted on 11/11/08 at 10:45 AM Reply With Quote
Lots of toys here for the 172's, even turbo kits!!!!

O

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loggyboy

posted on 11/11/08 at 12:11 PM Reply With Quote
Locost Tintops FTW!

Stange to see cars that seem quite new appearing for a few K. Much cheaper than that and they will start to make my Nova look expensive! lol





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Andy D

posted on 11/11/08 at 01:18 PM Reply With Quote
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fed up with the rain and bad weather over the last couple of years not getting enough track days in the indy .i have followed the forums trackday leaders andy d and paul fisher and got a tin top.so when i go to bed the night before a trackday i will not have to pray for good weather



To be fair, I didn't choose the Honda as an alternative trackday toy, it was Son, Pete's choice of weapon for his introdution to racing. But, it has to be said, it does make a lot of sense in our climate!

I dont think your planning on ditching the heater, but I reckon it's probably worth keeping for windscreen de-misting purposes. After all the car will be mostly used for cold wet winter trackdays.
Pete's Honda has no heater, just some little 12v hairdryer thing to act as a screen demister. It's not really that effective and partially contributed to his little bump at Croft last week. (He forgot to take the rain X too!)
Pete's bump, comedy version..

I hope there'll be some video footage of the battle of the Clios at Cadwell..

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DarrenW

posted on 11/11/08 at 01:31 PM Reply With Quote
That new vid is absolutely brilliant. Pete is wasted driving cars.






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PAUL FISHER

posted on 11/11/08 at 03:15 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Andy D
quote:

fed up with the rain and bad weather over the last couple of years not getting enough track days in the indy .i have followed the forums trackday leaders andy d and paul fisher and got a tin top.so when i go to bed the night before a trackday i will not have to pray for good weather



To be fair, I didn't choose the Honda as an alternative trackday toy, it was Son, Pete's choice of weapon for his introdution to racing. But, it has to be said, it does make a lot of sense in our climate!

I dont think your planning on ditching the heater, but I reckon it's probably worth keeping for windscreen de-misting purposes. After all the car will be mostly used for cold wet winter trackdays.
Pete's Honda has no heater, just some little 12v hairdryer thing to act as a screen demister. It's not really that effective and partially contributed to his little bump at Croft last week. (He forgot to take the rain X too!)
Pete's bump, comedy version..

I hope there'll be some video footage of the battle of the Clios at Cadwell..


Great comedy version video,its good he can laugh about it,nothing he could do about it anyway.
Yes certainly leaving heater in mine,although mine has had the dash removed,and fitted with a lightwieght fibreglass one,but the fan and heater is there,Ive removed all the aircon though,thought that was one luxury too manyI will get myself some of that rainx though keep hearing good reports on that stuff.

[Edited on 19/05/04 by PAUL FISHER]

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posted on 11/11/08 at 06:44 PM Reply With Quote
damage to car when we pick it up Rescued attachment clio 172 project 039.jpg
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Simon

posted on 11/11/08 at 08:13 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by mad gaz
less than 3k makes our 7s look very highcost .


Speak for yourself

Couldn't you have managed to make a couple of roofs instead of going to all the trouble of buying new cars

ATB

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Wadders

posted on 11/11/08 at 08:41 PM Reply With Quote
Pair of Jessies, whats wrong with a cagoule and mittens.

Al.






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Originally posted by mad gaz
less than 3k makes our 7s look very highcost .


Speak for yourself

Couldn't you have managed to make a couple of roofs instead of going to all the trouble of buying new cars

ATB

Simon







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Guinness

posted on 12/11/08 at 08:10 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by DarrenW
Pete is wasted driving cars.


No wonder he crashes then! No booze or spliffs before a trackday!

Funny video though!

Mike






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PAUL FISHER

posted on 13/11/08 at 05:50 PM Reply With Quote
Here's my clio nearly ready for the track now. Rescued attachment locost clio.jpg
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PAUL FISHER

posted on 13/11/08 at 05:53 PM Reply With Quote
And the engine, Rescued attachment engine after.jpg
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mr henderson

posted on 13/11/08 at 06:04 PM Reply With Quote
Any idea how much weight has been lost? If I was doing an exercise like this (and I would love too) I would be inclined to do a before and after weighbridge visit (or maybe weigh each piece of unecessary stuff that came out.

I'd liek to do it on a Jaguar, especailly an XJ coupe, then do the body mods and make a replica of the TWR cars, or maybe start with an XJS

John






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Andy D

posted on 13/11/08 at 06:49 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by PAUL FISHER
Here's my clio nearly ready for the track now.


Looking good Paul, and the forecast for Cadwell on Sunday is wet wet wet!

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PAUL FISHER

posted on 13/11/08 at 08:58 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by mr henderson
Any idea how much weight has been lost? If I was doing an exercise like this (and I would love too) I would be inclined to do a before and after weighbridge visit (or maybe weigh each piece of unecessary stuff that came out.

I'd liek to do it on a Jaguar, especailly an XJ coupe, then do the body mods and make a replica of the TWR cars, or maybe start with an XJS

John


Not sure how much weight has been lost,would have been a good idea to weigh it before and after,but I bought the car as a track car project,the guy had removed all the interior,the dash,airbags,aircon etc already,its now got a fibreglass dash,this model I think weighs just under 1000kgs standard,Ive fitted a lightweight T45 Safety Devices cage that weighs about 35kgs,thats put a bit more weight in,so I estimate the car will be around 900kgs. now

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PAUL FISHER

posted on 13/11/08 at 09:04 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Andy D
quote:
Originally posted by PAUL FISHER
Here's my clio nearly ready for the track now.


Looking good Paul, and the forecast for Cadwell on Sunday is wet wet wet!


Thanks Andy,still keeping my fingers crossed for a dry one,I would still like a dry day even if I have got a roof

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DarrenW

posted on 14/11/08 at 10:12 AM Reply With Quote
Id be tempted to change the show plates to read Clio 1.2 or something like that. Maybe Clio 16V at most.


The blue one looked hardly damaged. good find.


Is it possible to lighten them further by removing unwanted steel work (like from inside of doors) and fitting plastic side windows - or does the hassle and cost for small gains make it a bit of a waste (for me id just go on a diet!! and save money in the process)

I know a guy who built a Porsche 911 for rally cross. Space framed the car, removed lots of panels and made moulds from them then fitted replaceable lightweight items. Loads of work but what a car.






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PAUL FISHER

posted on 14/11/08 at 11:53 AM Reply With Quote
You can get a full set of plastic windows Darren,to save a few more kgs,they are about £300 a set,apart from that I don't think theres much more to save,but I am 6' 3" and 18 stone,so I think it will be cheaper to get back down to the gym for the next few months,also I don't want to get away from a bit of track day fun,I picked up the low millage 2 owner,year 2000 clio off ebay,its only done 51000 miles with FSH,it had already had new spax adjustable suspension fitted to it,full stainless exhaust,tarox brakes,strut braces front and rear,it even had a lightweight fibreglass dash,and a sparco steering wheel,I then picked up a few bargains all off ebay there's loads of cheap gear on there for these cars,a safety devices cage,race seats,willans harnesses,induction kit,carbon bonnet,and a set of R888's from tyretraders,total spend to date just under £2500.I no its not going to be the fastest thing on the track,but should still be a bit of fun





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Omni

posted on 14/11/08 at 11:58 AM Reply With Quote
Paul, why does your car have a periscope on the dash?

Bloody nice car BTW

O

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PAUL FISHER

posted on 14/11/08 at 12:06 PM Reply With Quote
I must be expecting realy wet track days,its just a cool air blower in place of the dash air vents,It will blow lots of cool air on me on a hot day,or it can be turned to blow extra warm air onto the screen for extra demisting
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Hellfire

posted on 14/11/08 at 12:43 PM Reply With Quote
That Clio looks great Paul but then I'd expect nothing less from you. Have you done any engine mods yet (other than the induction kit)? Considering fitting a turbo?

Phil

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Andy D

posted on 14/11/08 at 01:04 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
That Clio looks great Paul but then I'd expect nothing less from you. Have you done any engine mods yet (other than the induction kit)? Considering fitting a turbo?

Phil

[Edited on 14-11-08 by Hellfire]



..or maybe a bike engine?

I reckon, as it's a winter trackday toy, maybe best to stick to moderate power? Then the super turbo gsx1900 (with nos) can come out to play in the summer.

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PAUL FISHER

posted on 14/11/08 at 01:14 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Hellfire
That Clio looks great Paul but then I'd expect nothing less from you. Have you done any engine mods yet (other than the induction kit)? Considering fitting a turbo?

Phil
Thanks Phil,the engine is standard,and its keeping that way,that way if she blows its £300 to £400 for a second hand motor swap,keeping the costs down so if and when I get fed up with it I can sell it on,and its not cost me anything,thats the plan anyway.


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PAUL FISHER

posted on 14/11/08 at 01:29 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Andy D
quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
That Clio looks great Paul but then I'd expect nothing less from you. Have you done any engine mods yet (other than the induction kit)? Considering fitting a turbo?

Phil

[Edited on 14-11-08 by Hellfire]



..or maybe a bike engine?

I reckon, as it's a winter trackday toy, maybe best to stick to moderate power? Then the super turbo gsx1900 (with nos) can come out to play in the summer.


Yes,I am sure I am still going to build another kit,just can't make my mind up which engine to fit,but it will be a track only car if I do,as I don't appear to be getting the same pleasure driving on the road any more but this is a the top of my list the moment

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Andy D

posted on 15/11/08 at 07:09 PM Reply With Quote
Hope the Clios are ready for action.

We made a start on this today,




Got the new wing on easy enough, spare h/lights we got with the car are a very close match, but just not quite.. Have had a go at straightening out the front bumper, it looks straight enough, but will it like buggery all line up. Needs a bit more fettling, or maybe try and find another. Bit rare by all accounts, Civic vtec, not the same as a CRX front end apparently.

Have a good day at Cadwell boys, hope you dont end up as above! Noticed the weather is looking to be a bit better.

We're off karting tomorrow at Teeside again.

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