JoaoCaldeira
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| posted on 14/11/06 at 10:48 PM |
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First thoughts... bulky and not part of the rest.... way bulky.
Hammerhead's version seems a lot nicer.
Maybe I'd prefer the old one, thought
Joao
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G.Man
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 04:46 AM |
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do those cheeks on the nose allow air to come out the back of the nose?
Its growing on me...
Opinions are like backsides..
Everyone has one, nobody wants to hear it and only other peoples stink!
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Gergely
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 09:23 AM |
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I like it more an more. The one thing that I like more in the old version is that the lower part of the nose is angled backwards, whereas the new one
drops vertically to the ground. That's what reminds people of a tractor. The nose is quite tall.
But I like it. Wonder how it would look in orange...
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marc n
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 09:43 AM |
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its an optical olusion the nose front is actually lower by 2 inches, and the frontal surface area is less, also the nose when veiwed from the side
slopes backward, its hard to take a picture to show all the curves etc
best regards
marc
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marc n
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 09:46 AM |
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quote:
do those cheeks on the nose allow air to come out the back of the nose?
yep 
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marc n
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 09:47 AM |
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quote:
As the colour space your camera takes piccies at seems slightly out of kilta
probably not the camera more likely the user 
colour is the same as yours chris
[Edited on 15/11/06 by marc n]
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bitsilly
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 04:16 PM |
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IMHO It is important to be recognisable as an MNR so I think any unique measure is a start. You may want to think about registering the design for
that reason.
Only suggestion is to make the logo big enough to see in a rear view mirror, though as it probably wouldn't be there for long put it on the back
too!
I like it!
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G.Man
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 04:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by marc n
quote:
do those cheeks on the nose allow air to come out the back of the nose?
yep
And you cant just change the nose?
Needs a bonnet, scuttle and nose yes?
Opinions are like backsides..
Everyone has one, nobody wants to hear it and only other peoples stink!
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chockymonster
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 04:36 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by G.Man
And you cant just change the nose?
Needs a bonnet, scuttle and nose yes?
Yep
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Agriv8
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 06:44 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by marc n
quote:
As the colour space your camera takes piccies at seems slightly out of kilta
probably not the camera more likely the user
colour is the same as yours chris
[Edited on 15/11/06 by marc n]
Oi i'll take offence at that least I managed to get a couple of without the dogs 
regards
Iain
[Edited on 15/11/06 by Agriv8]
Taller than your average Guy !
Management is like a tree of monkeys. - Those at the top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. BUT Those at the bottom look up and see a
tree full of a*seholes .............
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Winston Todge
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 07:16 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Agriv8
quote:
Originally posted by marc n
quote:
As the colour space your camera takes piccies at seems slightly out of kilta
probably not the camera more likely the user
colour is the same as yours chris
[Edited on 15/11/06 by marc n]
Oi i'll take offence at that least I managed to get a couple of without the dogs
regards
Iain
[Edited on 15/11/06 by Agriv8]
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Dillinger1977
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 09:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by chockymonster
quote:
Originally posted by G.Man
And you cant just change the nose?
Needs a bonnet, scuttle and nose yes?
Yep
ahh bugger. had it just been a new nose needed I think i might have been tempted.
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smart51
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 10:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by marc n
to replace to new nose you need nose scuttle and bonnet
[Edited on 14/11/06 by marc n]
How are the new scuttle and bonnet different?
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tks
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| posted on 16/11/06 at 06:41 AM |
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its looks perfect!
i like it, and i like every day mnr a bit more.
Its more modern, and in my opinion its the way to go to get more clients / sells.
the new generation of clients don´t know what a seven is (like me with 21 years)
only thing what i miss is a scoop on the bonnet.
anyway i think its a improvement. it makes the differenc ebetween a 50Keuro donky from NL and a MNR a bit smaller.
Tks
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Garibaldi
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| posted on 16/11/06 at 06:51 AM |
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New Bodywork
I understand the need to continually improve the design; that's what great QC is all about. I've looked long and hard at the new design
and have some questions and comments:
--the difficulty with judging any design, particularly one that moves, is that a photograph doesn't have the visual/spatial cues necessary. The
VortX is very low, it would be unusual to see it at the angle at which the photo is taken, so it's almost impossible to have an informed
opinion.
--it looks to me like one of the design goals was to smooth out the flow under the car, was lift or downforce one of the considerations in the new
design?
--the original nose seems to have less frontal area and a "smoother" shape, yet you said that the new shape is better in this regard. Can
you explain the differences?
Thanks,
Garibaldi
Maine, USA
Gary Pighetti
Falmouth, Maine USA
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marc n
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| posted on 16/11/06 at 09:07 AM |
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quote:
understand the need to continually improve the design; that's what great QC is all about. I've looked long and hard at the new design and
have some questions and comments:
--the difficulty with judging any design, particularly one that moves, is that a photograph doesn't have the visual/spatial cues necessary. The
VortX is very low, it would be unusual to see it at the angle at which the photo is taken, so it's almost impossible to have an informed
opinion.
--it looks to me like one of the design goals was to smooth out the flow under the car, was lift or downforce one of the considerations in the new
design?
--the original nose seems to have less frontal area and a "smoother" shape, yet you said that the new shape is better in this regard. Can
you explain the differences?
It is very difficult to see the shape fully by picture as its has so many curves
the idea of the new nose was to be a bit more modern and to update the shape a little, the new nose is still available too
the new nose has less frontal area than the old will try to get a pic of the cars side by side to show ( weather permitting ) also is has a lower more
curved front top leading edge also has a flat bottom and slopes from top to bottom all this has moved away from the traditional style noses that in
some cases woulkd create lift
this combined with the new hardtop underway as we speak should give us a much slippier seven type car ready for our next high powered demo car
and its not bike engined
we do have a bonnet scoop also to help with airflow around the engine
when i made the nose i knew it wouldnt be to everyones taste ( hence keeping the old shape available too ) but when i design / make updates / mods to
the car these are usually done from feedback from customers, performance enhancing, or just because they are my cars and i can
I have stopped going to most of the shows as i can honestly say that most of the cars that are exhibited at the moment are still the same as when i
first started this project three years ago, which is a real shame. Times are changing and so are customers criteria when they look for a car, and you
either take bold moves and go with the times or become stagnant and boring.
Over three years we have changed bodywork shape three times, bodywork manufacturer 4 times, chassis and geometry three times, we now have over 35 cnc
machined parts ( set to increase ) all in the quest of development and performance
It helps that my work is my love ( misses would say first love )
its not just a business to me, even being as busy as we are i still get involved with all the fabrication welding etc , on a daily basis
I have been very fortunate in finding a way to make a living doing what i love and also meeting some great people who have become good freinds along
the way, and hopefully next year with club events racing etc we should all have some great fun
best regards
marc
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marc n
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| posted on 16/11/06 at 09:09 AM |
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quote:
How are the new scuttle and bonnet different?
they have all been smoothed in to get even better shut lines and a slipier shape
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Gergely
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| posted on 16/11/06 at 09:09 AM |
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Marc, how about the hardtop and doors you mentioned in a different post? Do you have any pictures of those already?
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marc n
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| posted on 16/11/06 at 09:11 AM |
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Marc, how about the hardtop and doors you mentioned in a different post? Do you have any pictures of those already?
still in development at the moment, lots of work still to do and so little time
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Colnago_Man
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| posted on 16/11/06 at 09:58 AM |
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Marc,
Any idea of the cost premium of the new body work over the old?
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marc n
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| posted on 16/11/06 at 10:04 AM |
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Marc,
Any idea of the cost premium of the new body work over the old?
same price no increase basically its an either or fitment
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Winston Todge
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| posted on 16/11/06 at 12:39 PM |
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Hey Marc,
You still amaze me with your obvious enthusiasm for the industry... It really shows through the way your product is continually in a state of
development.
Do you think there'd ever be a point where you will be happy? I know it's probably an impossible question to answer, but just
curious...
And lastly! What engine is in the new demonstrator then!? Duratec? VAG? Honda lump? Do tell!
Keep up the good work,
Chris.
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clutch_kick
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| posted on 16/11/06 at 01:56 PM |
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I know this is OFF TOPIC, but since MNR will be racing soon, any chance somebody could record the episodes if they are aired on telly?
I can only get MotorsTV locally and that is french 
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Gergely
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| posted on 16/11/06 at 04:23 PM |
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Yes, and if someone can record from TV can they also put it on the Net for download maybe? I would be interested too!
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Winston Todge
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| posted on 16/11/06 at 05:42 PM |
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I'd be very interested to know if RGB is ever aired!?
Or the other championships you're planning on entering Marc??
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