marshall
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| posted on 21/2/09 at 08:03 PM |
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zero?
has anyone seen this kitcar ? and is it
taken over the robin hood?
 
Rescued attachment Zero 7.jpg
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Steve Hignett
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| posted on 21/2/09 at 08:06 PM |
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They have had it at the last few KC shows and yes it is by the same people
ATB
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Stuart_B
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| posted on 21/2/09 at 08:06 PM |
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i was looking at that when i got my kit, but i chose mk over the zero. the zero is ment to be taken place of the lightweight as the lightweight,
needed to have extra parts to stenghten the chassis up to be safe(to pass sva), as far as i belive any way.
stuart
black mk indy, 1.6pinto on cbr600 bike carb's.
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blakep82
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| posted on 21/2/09 at 08:10 PM |
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yeah, have a look at the chassis before you make up your mind 
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Richard Quinn
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| posted on 21/2/09 at 08:24 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
yeah, have a look at the chassis before you make up your mind
Why? What's the matter with it?
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lotusmadandy
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| posted on 21/2/09 at 08:31 PM |
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The zero is a lot better than the 2b.My mate has built a 2b and it was a s**t of a job.
Have a look at the other offerings before you make up your mind,MK,MNR,MAC1 etc.
Andy
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blakep82
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| posted on 21/2/09 at 08:36 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Richard Quinn
quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
yeah, have a look at the chassis before you make up your mind
Why? What's the matter with it?
they sent me a catalog the other day, it was a little lacking in trianglation, it just looked very weak to me
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BenB
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| posted on 21/2/09 at 08:43 PM |
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I think they name it after the result they got when the did FSA on the chassis 
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big_wasa
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| posted on 21/2/09 at 09:21 PM |
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Ive looked at a few at the shows, the chassis looked like it would be fine for a modest road car.
The thing that would put me of is all the crap they make you buy as part of the kit.
Dont get me wrong. Its not Mnr or Dax quality but a budget blaster.
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ashg
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| posted on 21/2/09 at 09:36 PM |
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have seen them at quite a few shows and cars from the likes of mk, mnr, tiger are of much better quality.
if your really on a shoe string budget and dont want to build your own chassis i would be looking at a haynes roadster kit from 3ge. mk engineering
were involved with the design so many of the ideals from the indy have been carried over but its been redesigned in a way that can be built at home.
eg not having to bend box section etc.
Anything With Tits or Wheels Will cost you MONEY!!
Haynes Roadster (Finished)
Exocet (Finished & Sold)
New Project (Started)
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tendoshingan
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| posted on 21/2/09 at 11:05 PM |
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I'm currently building one.
As far as SVA goes, quite a few people have passed with the zero already.
If you look at the design of the chassis it is almost a cross between the original locost book and the newer haynes roadster.
I had a look at several 7 types and if I had the money I would have gone for a westfield.
I decided to go with the zero because I don't want to race it. just wanted a fun sports car. I also managed to get a really good deal from
GBS.
One word of warning if you do go down this route, the manual is almost non-existent and there is a lot of fettling to be done. You also have to
purchase a few extras for the SVA.
But saying this, Richard is always helpful on the phone with any probs you may have and there is also the rhocar website.
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Hellfire
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| posted on 21/2/09 at 11:24 PM |
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Looks good though...
Steve
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snapper
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| posted on 22/2/09 at 08:48 AM |
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Still a lot of prejudice about for the Robin Hood brand.
I am starting to get annoyed by the comments of people who have no idea about the new owners and the new cars.
The Zero is not a Lightweight, it is much more the traditional chassis and panel type 7, quite a few are on the road and are very well built.
The kits are very comprehensive and competitively priced.
The new owners are good genuine people and they are making good honest cars.
One Zero i know of was built with a brand new Zetec in 10 months for under £5500 and it looks fabulous, speaks for itself
I eat to survive
I drink to forget
I breath to pi55 my ex wife off (and now my ex partner)
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Richard Quinn
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| posted on 22/2/09 at 09:19 AM |
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That is exactly why I asked the question as to what was wrong with the chassis earlier on in the thread.
I haven't seen the chassis and would therefore not offer any opinion. I would guess that some of the negative comments (not necessarily in this
thread I will add before people jump down my throat!) come from people who have also not seen the chassis. Some comments will come from "amatuer
engineers" who assume that more steel = better and some people will simply be regurgitating what they heard said/saw written before (usually
said/written by people in the first two categories).
I have nothing to do with GBS but do feel that they have enough of an uphill struggle without uneccesary speculative bad press.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 22/2/09 at 09:54 AM |
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I don't think there is anything wrong with the zero chassis, certainly the one I've seen at the shows appears to as well or better
triangulated than most locosts.
It's certainly the first RH I would ever consider owning.
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marshall
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| posted on 22/2/09 at 12:06 PM |
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it looks ok from the pix but i was not looking to build one i did Avon and now Sold. just looking to see what i could do next got a MGF at the
mow.......
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DavidW
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| posted on 22/2/09 at 01:56 PM |
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I've spoken to (I think) Richard at GBS whilst buying an exhaust manifold and probably shortly a bike carb manifold. I've found him very
helpful and the exhaust manifold I got from them was good value for money.
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chris-p-duck
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| posted on 22/2/09 at 09:14 PM |
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I am building a Lightweight and if you allow for the fact that they need some specific strengthening then there is nowt wrong with them. They seem to
be better in terms of fit and finish than 2bs and they go together well. People should remember that Lightweights have passed SVA in an unmodified
state and the car which caused all the issues would have failed SVA if it had been a westfield. I am reliably informed that it was built to a
shocking standard and was definitely not roadworthy. The unmodifed car that passed however was a very well built and tidy car.
Lightweights seem to have got a bad name on the basis of one badly built car and all the good ones that are structurally fine and have passed SVA
without issues are ignored. For a good value fun road blaster I think they are as good as anything else. I know people are going to be up in arms
about that sort of comment and I know that there are some better makers than others but any makers shortfalls can be made up for by careful and
considerate building - after all there are some badly built westys etc out there.
Rant over....................... soap box returned to the closet.
Sorry
Chris
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Richard Quinn
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| posted on 22/2/09 at 09:20 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by chris-p-duck
I am building a Lightweight and if you allow for the fact that they need some specific strengthening then there is nowt wrong with them. They seem to
be better in terms of fit and finish than 2bs and they go together well. People should remember that Lightweights have passed SVA in an unmodified
state and the car which caused all the issues would have failed SVA if it had been a westfield. I am reliably informed that it was built to a
shocking standard and was definitely not roadworthy. The unmodifed car that passed however was a very well built and tidy car.
Lightweights seem to have got a bad name on the basis of one badly built car and all the good ones that are structurally fine and have passed SVA
without issues are ignored. For a good value fun road blaster I think they are as good as anything else. I know people are going to be up in arms
about that sort of comment and I know that there are some better makers than others but any makers shortfalls can be made up for by careful and
considerate building - after all there are some badly built westys etc out there.
Rant over....................... soap box returned to the closet.
Sorry
Chris
Nope! Fair point, well made! Some kits have known faults (not just RH/GBS) and they just take a little more effort to get them right.
Each to their own at the end of the day.
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procomp
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| posted on 23/2/09 at 08:56 AM |
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Hi
You have to laugh. There's people having a go at the zero chassis for lack of triangulation and recommend taking a look at the MK and Mac#1 as a
better option. Which have even less triangulation in many areas.
Cheers Matt
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ed1801
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| posted on 23/2/09 at 08:57 AM |
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Any pics of the Zero chassis? The ones on the website have panels and are a bit unclear.
Cheers
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tendoshingan
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| posted on 23/2/09 at 10:08 AM |
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Some good pics of a Zero chassis being built here:
linky
You may have to be a member of RHOCAR to see them.
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