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MautoK

posted on 16/7/09 at 09:04 PM Reply With Quote
Oil cooler/number plate conflict

L&G,
As this covers both transmission and bodywork I've posted here.

Just fitted an oil cooler for the autobox. Cooler is just in front of the rack:

Cooler
Cooler


The hose is 100R6, not heater hose!

I've cut air entry holes to feed the cooler:

Air inlet
Air inlet


However, this conflicts with the number plate.
So I've wondered about cutting the plate so that, instead of
F576 OTA (linear)
it becomes
F576
OTA
in rectangular form.

Exterior
Exterior


The aim is to have the F576 as shown with the OTA symmetrically beneath.

Any reason I should not do this?

The other way is to mount it about 1"to 1.5" higher than is was (central). This would slightly restrict air flow to a few more rows of the water radiator, but at least it's the less hot half of the Polo rad.

Another is to fit a stick-on plate on the leading edge of the nosecone, but are these legal in this day and age?

Any other ideas?

Thanks,
John.





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graememk

posted on 16/7/09 at 09:08 PM Reply With Quote
do you need one on a pinto ?
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eccsmk

posted on 16/7/09 at 09:11 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by graememk
do you need one on a pinto ?


thats what i was thinking
plus if you bin the mesh from your grill it will aid airflow into the engine bay and drop engine temps anyway
i may be wrong (yet again)






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Guinness

posted on 16/7/09 at 09:11 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by graememk
do you need one on a pinto ?


It's got an auto box.

I'd just get a stick on plate, or a slightly smaller "show plate"

Mike






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Steve G

posted on 16/7/09 at 09:17 PM Reply With Quote
I'd also go with a smaller plate - to keep it legal though go for the smaller motorbike font size as found on certain Jap import cars at the front.
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austin man

posted on 16/7/09 at 09:27 PM Reply With Quote
I didn't think cars could use smaller letters, sure they have to be a minimum size and Font ??





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clairetoo

posted on 16/7/09 at 09:30 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by graememk
do you need one on a pinto ?

As far as I am aware , engine type has no bearing on the need for a number plate
As suggested , I would go with a stick-on plate on top of the nosecone .





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MautoK

posted on 16/7/09 at 09:45 PM Reply With Quote
The cooler is for the auto box fluid.
Even though there's about 2 gallons of the dreaded ATF it gets excessively hot after 15-20 miles - this was on the rather warmer days a couple of weeks back. The box is quite a tight fit, even in the wider-than-standard tunnel AND I've fitted a guard under both the engine and autobox sumps; so the pan doesn't get any cooling airflow.

I could fit a smaller no. plate but I think these days you have to use the standard plate/character dimensions. The only exception AFAIK is imported cars that can't accommodate a standard plate.

Cheers,
John.





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bimbleuk

posted on 17/7/09 at 07:37 AM Reply With Quote
As a general guide you need about 1/4 the frontal area of the radiator to supply sufficient air. For this to really work you need guides to trap the air in front of the radiator ideally. So in you case maybe simply reducing the height of the number plate a bit. Raising the mounting position sufficiently to allow a slot to be cut in the lower edge of the nose cone will supply enough air flow for the radiator to work.

[Edited on 17-7-09 by bimbleuk]

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iank

posted on 17/7/09 at 07:47 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by austin man
I didn't think cars could use smaller letters, sure they have to be a minimum size and Font ??


Correct, imports are officially allowed smaller plates/letters but kits aren't.
Bike plate on a car isn't legal I'm afraid.

Don't think the square plates are legal on the front only the rear, but I doubt your average copper would know for sure.





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MautoK

posted on 17/7/09 at 12:41 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks for all your comments.

I think I'll go for the simple solution and mount the plate centrally, just a bit higher than previously.





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morcus

posted on 17/7/09 at 01:54 PM Reply With Quote
You could build a support arm and mount it how it is in you picture, though you'd probably want to reinforce it so it doesn't break off.
Are Sticker number plates legal?

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MautoK

posted on 17/7/09 at 03:49 PM Reply With Quote
ISTR that sticky plates aren't legal.

Anyway, it's done!
Oil cooler fitted
Oil cooler fitted

The no. plate is horizontal (and the floor is!) so it shows up the 'MK' behind the grille is skew. I'd never noticed before!

I put a small deflector below the air inlet to the cooler as a persuader:
Cooler inlet
Cooler inlet


A few more random pics taken today....

General view of the front:
Front
Front


View down the wider-than-standard tunnel showing the auto box:
Auto box in tunnel
Auto box in tunnel


Dashboard:
Dashboard
Dashboard


Now just waiting for the weather to perk up a bit and see how effective the cooler is...





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02GF74

posted on 18/7/09 at 08:05 PM Reply With Quote
AFAIK stick on plates were never legal - just in olden times the police were more concerned in catching bank robbers than raising revenue by targetting motororists.

The E-type was always pictured with stick on plates, (just been on the bay and of 5 e-types looked at, all are like this.


what you have done should be ok - you could trim a couple mm off the top and bottom of the plate.

I have
XXX
123Y

on front of my land rover and never had issue at MOT time.


if it were me, I would have put stick on plate on the nose cone*

* that is what I have.

[Edited on 18/7/09 by 02GF74]






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