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franky

posted on 14/8/10 at 08:57 AM Reply With Quote
kit constructors watch out....

This looks like the future regarding open source engineering.....

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/news/default.asp?storyId=22334

Nice to see a genuinely skilled and experienced 'newcomer' to the sector really.

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scootz

posted on 14/8/10 at 09:02 AM Reply With Quote
Wonder if it really can drive upside-down...





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russbost

posted on 14/8/10 at 09:13 AM Reply With Quote
at £35 with no roof don't think it will attract many kit car bunnies!





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imp paul

posted on 14/8/10 at 09:16 AM Reply With Quote
its not so nice its dam ugly
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franky

posted on 14/8/10 at 09:19 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by russbost
at £35 with no roof don't think it will attract many kit car bunnies!


that's for a turn key.... Kits are a whole load cheaper, it's the open source aspect of the chassis design which is the main point!

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MakeEverything

posted on 14/8/10 at 09:21 AM Reply With Quote












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Peteff

posted on 14/8/10 at 09:25 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
Wonder if it really can drive upside-down...


I think the roll bar will keep the tyres off the road so that's a no.





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I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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zilspeed

posted on 14/8/10 at 09:31 AM Reply With Quote
Checking out this pic of the inverter chassis, it's oh so very similar to the Sports 2000 which I get to fiddle with. The packaging, and chassis layout, are remarkably similar.
And the car I'm talking about is not a commercially available car, it's a geniuine homebuilt.


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liam.mccaffrey

posted on 14/8/10 at 10:15 AM Reply With Quote
can anyone find where you can download the CAD plans from?

EDIT
I really like it btw

[Edited on 14/8/10 by liam.mccaffrey]





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SPYDER

posted on 14/8/10 at 10:16 AM Reply With Quote
440kgs???
Even in race trim without the lights etc.?
Not pretty either. Even by racecar standards.

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interestedparty

posted on 14/8/10 at 10:34 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed





pedals are pretty close to the front axle line I notice, but overall looks like quite a tasteful car





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MakeEverything

posted on 14/8/10 at 11:15 AM Reply With Quote
Reading the write up again, it looks like they are going for another race car, by producing the statutory amount required before qualifying for a race series.

- At least thats what i think it sounds like, though i dont know if the above is accurate at all?





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RK

posted on 14/8/10 at 11:19 AM Reply With Quote
That looks very safe for someone who accidentally hits something on the road on the Autobahn, and goes flying through the air upside down with the greatest of ease... people should be given a few minutes with Mr. Webber prior to taking it out.
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zilspeed

posted on 14/8/10 at 11:27 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SPYDER
440kgs???
Even in race trim without the lights etc.?
Not pretty either. Even by racecar standards.


It has full bodywork.
That's not a bad weight.

To put that in persepctive, the current Sports 2000 regs have a 500kg minimum weight limit. That's with a Pinto and a Hewland bolted in. Those collectively weigh 200kg, so the roller is around 300kg for some of the more competitive cars.


Add back a Fireblade fully dressed at 67kg plus the final drive and you shouldn't be more than say 100kg all up for the complete engine and drivetrain and we're back up to 400kg or so.

So, it looks about 40kg heavy.

Having said that, those 40kg really will be incredibly expensive to lose and will involve shaving tiny lumps off absolutely everything rather than finding loads anywhere.

Doesn't sound so bad now.

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zilspeed

posted on 14/8/10 at 11:30 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by interestedparty
quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed





pedals are pretty close to the front axle line I notice, but overall looks like quite a tasteful car


That's packaging for you.

The only way around that is to stretch the wheelbase and that may not be at all desirable.

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Simon

posted on 14/8/10 at 11:42 AM Reply With Quote
I wonder if it'll be allowed on the Top Twat Test Twack

ATB

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franky

posted on 14/8/10 at 12:08 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MakeEverything
Reading the write up again, it looks like they are going for another race car, by producing the statutory amount required before qualifying for a race series.

- At least thats what i think it sounds like, though i dont know if the above is accurate at all?


I've read and seen a couple of interviews with the design team, basically they want to get the country engineering again and are sick of one make monopolies that exist through back door payments altering regs to suit..... apparently

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dinosaurjuice

posted on 14/8/10 at 01:38 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by franky
quote:
Originally posted by MakeEverything
Reading the write up again, it looks like they are going for another race car, by producing the statutory amount required before qualifying for a race series.

- At least thats what i think it sounds like, though i dont know if the above is accurate at all?


I've read and seen a couple of interviews with the design team, basically they want to get the country engineering again and are sick of one make monopolies that exist through back door payments altering regs to suit..... apparently


good on 'em

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StevieB

posted on 14/8/10 at 02:54 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by franky

I've read and seen a couple of interviews with the design team, basically they want to get the country engineering again


How is giving someone £35k for a race car going to get people engineering again? I think I may have a missed a point somwehere...

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franky

posted on 14/8/10 at 03:25 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by StevieB
quote:
Originally posted by franky

I've read and seen a couple of interviews with the design team, basically they want to get the country engineering again


How is giving someone £35k for a race car going to get people engineering again? I think I may have a missed a point somwehere...


Yep the point you've missed is that all the plans and designs are going to be open source.... its a bit like Guy Crofts engine books, he tells you exactly what he's doing and why, nothing to hide, no 'secret's' just sound engineering.

If you look at their website you can get an idea of what their plans are.

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StevieB

posted on 14/8/10 at 04:28 PM Reply With Quote
I got the impression that design data would be made available to those who have bought the car.

Hopefully this is not the case though, as that really takes home built cars to the next level.

[Edited on 14/8/10 by StevieB]

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zilspeed

posted on 14/8/10 at 08:28 PM Reply With Quote
If I can go back to packaging again.

If you're building a mid engined full bodied sports racing car with full bodywork, the layout you see with the Inverter chassis is somewhere you will very quickly arrive at.

Here's the Reynard one.

Inverter 1
Inverter 1


And here's ours which very much pre dates it by a significant margin.

JT7HC
JT7HC




[Edited on 14/8/10 by zilspeed]

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MikeR

posted on 14/8/10 at 09:15 PM Reply With Quote
I've thought about a standard design for a while and your pictures sort of prove it.

The idea being a standard front and rear mounting for the suspension. This would then bolt onto the 'main' bit of the car. The 'main bit' was two different sections - an engine section and a passenger section. These also 'bolt' together. You could therefore make 4 parts and assemble them as either passenger or engine infront. Seemed quite workable in my head.

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mangogrooveworkshop

posted on 15/8/10 at 10:38 AM Reply With Quote
That roller with Steve Turners body on it SCHIMPLES








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