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madteg

posted on 16/7/11 at 07:23 PM Reply With Quote
Brake problem (tin top)

Just brough saxo for daughter and got brake problem. Excessive travel on peddle nearly to floor and then good peddle, Going to sort it out in morning any ideas what it could be.
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daviep

posted on 16/7/11 at 07:44 PM Reply With Quote
My first guess would be handbrake needs adjusted if it's got drums at the back.

or

Sticky caliper slides.





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jabs

posted on 16/7/11 at 07:44 PM Reply With Quote
Air in brake system?
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rusty nuts

posted on 16/7/11 at 08:19 PM Reply With Quote
Remove the rear drums if they will come off,( if not use a big brass drift band knock the stub axle out through the suspension arm ) Chances are that the rear drums are worn leaving a ridge that get caught behind the brake shoes, depending on how badly worn they are you may be able to remove the ridge. Check that the auto adjusters aren't siezed, manually operate the adjusters a small amount at a time fitting the drum to check brakes do not bind each time. Finally refit the drum using a new lock nut. Yet to see an auto adjuster that really works
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britishtrident

posted on 16/7/11 at 08:40 PM Reply With Quote
You can find out which wheel it is by clamping the flex hoses one at a time.
My guess if there is nothing obvious at the rear it is a stuck front caliper.


[Edited on 16/7/11 by britishtrident]

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adithorp

posted on 16/7/11 at 10:03 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rusty nuts
Remove the rear drums if they will come off,( if not use a big brass drift band knock the stub axle out through the suspension arm ) Chances are that the rear drums are worn leaving a ridge that get caught behind the brake shoes, depending on how badly worn they are you may be able to remove the ridge. Check that the auto adjusters aren't siezed, manually operate the adjusters a small amount at a time fitting the drum to check brakes do not bind each time. Finally refit the drum using a new lock nut. Yet to see an auto adjuster that really works


Sounds about right to me. A flap wheel on the angle grinder is pretty good for removing the lip. Take your time and work around and around for an even finish. When adjusting be carefull not to dislodge the ratchet pawl; It's easy to do (especially if you adjust too far and try and let it off again) and a bitch to get back.





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COREdevelopments

posted on 17/7/11 at 09:07 AM Reply With Quote
If it still the same after sorting the rears out check the pushrod bar from pedal to servo, the nut can work its way loose causing long pedal travel.

atb

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ss1turbo

posted on 11/9/11 at 08:34 PM Reply With Quote
Had this when the wife had a Mk2 106 (same mechanicals) at 18 months old; every 1000 miles or so, I had to tweak the self adjusters up on the rear shoes. Peugeot said it was normal to have sod all for the first half of the pedal...and new parts probably wouldn't make any difference!

It's a "feature" of some cars...





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Ninehigh

posted on 11/9/11 at 09:05 PM Reply With Quote
Missus's 106 is the same, despite having the drums refitted (with a whole rear axle) and a front caliper replaced they still feel pants..






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dray13dad

posted on 12/11/11 at 03:15 PM Reply With Quote
if its the basic saxo/106 with only tree wheel bolts they are normally rubbish, all you can do is back handbrake adjuster off over ride self adjusters and hope for best .
If you got bendix shoes rather than girling, adjuster tend to lose small clip at bottom of adjuster wheel so when you use brakes the dam adjuster unwinds itself so backing off brakes..

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