Ianf
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posted on 18/5/12 at 12:49 AM |
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So, finally i have a garage! Advice please.
Hello, another newbie here after some advice.
Ive recently purchased a new house and this time i made sure it had a garage
This means im now on the hunt for a toy, which has in the last few weeks had me scanning about the internet every spare minute ive had, aswell as
attending the show at Stoneleigh, and now ive ended up here with the rest of you!
Im looking to buy a fully built ready to go 7 replica and have a budget of around 10k.
The trouble i have is, im really not sure what to go for which seems a common problem with newbies on this site from what i have read
I have no experience what so ever with kit cars, or even rear wheel drive, so its going to be fun im sure
Ive owned a few quick cars in my time both FWD and 4WD but nothing like this.
Having looked at various sites at whats for sale i keep going back to the Tiger Avon either zetec or duratec variant, but after reading many reveiws
cannot make up my mind if this would be the right choice for me?
Please someone help me make up my mind!!
A few questions:
- im 6'4 (would this be a problem?)
- would the zetec engine be a suitable choice for a kit car virgin? (ie. powerwise, too little/too much)
- is the Tiger Avon a good quality kit in your opinion? (obviously much depends on who built it)
- is there any other cars you would recommend in budget?
Sorry if this is all a bit basic but im slowly feeling my way into the kit car scence as i said so would appreciate any help what so ever.
Thanks in advance.
Ian.
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zetec
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posted on 18/5/12 at 03:14 AM |
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Welcome
When I was looking round I went to see the Tiger as they had a place in London at that time. I seem to remember the Avon was short in the cockpit and
I suspect you might have issues getting in.
Firstly you will need to decide on the level of build you want to get into, the budget you quote will exclude you from a new Caterham/Westfield/Dax
unless you pick up a part built s/h car cheap. These are normally the easier to build options as they supply every nut and bolt.
While Tiger will offer a full kit for near to your budget I would be tempted to look at the other smaller manufactuers who while not always offering a
"full" kit will supply everything you need to get started, and the other parts you can source yourself.
The advantage of sourcing your own selected parts is that you can build the car just as you want it, and your views on what you want will change as
the build goes on. If I was to build again I would first decide on a chassis that suited what I wanted the car for taking into account the engine I
wanted. Do you want a stripped out focused track car or a road car that you might want to go for a Sunday blast/touring....they would be very
different.
Your engine choice has been used plenty of times and will present no problems. My car is as easy to drive around town as any normal car but plenty
fast enough when given some stick!
Lots will depend on how much time you have, pratical experience and what you want from the car...Dont discount buying a car that is on the road
already, there are some bargains to had.
You need to get out to a few shows and meets and try a few cars out for size and see what you like before spending your £££. £10K is a very good
budget, mine came in at about £8K just to give an idea.
" I only registered to look at the pictures, now I'm stuck with this username for the rest of my life!"
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snapper
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posted on 18/5/12 at 05:34 AM |
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Try and join a local club, here in Essex the Essex Kit Car club has a good range of different kits and a lot of advise from builders.
You get to have a good look, talk over different issues and get a ride.
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I drink to forget
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iank
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posted on 18/5/12 at 06:02 AM |
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If you have no experience of RWD then be very careful to build up to going 'fast'. Too many people put their brand new pride and joy into
a hedge backwards in the first couple of months of ownership. Trackdays somewhere with good run-off areas would be a good idea
For £10k you could buy a really nice car of any of the good makes, or an entry level caterham (though that would be really snug!).
Putting on my flameproof suit I'd put Tiger in the value to mid range of kit quality and I certainly wouldn't be putting my whole budget
into one no matter how nicely made if I could afford some depreciation.
6"4' might not be a problem depending on whether it's in your body or legs, but at worst you'd been needing to go for a
foam+binbag seat in order to get the extra cockpit length.
Best thing it to get a test drive in one. Maybe http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3880485.htm if you like Avon's but haggle hard as the weather
is terrible for sellers this year.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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chrisxr2
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posted on 18/5/12 at 07:07 AM |
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Haynes roadster
I bought a pre built haynes roadster after checking around what is best for tall people, i am 6ft 2 and have long legs and fit in my Roadster just
fine.
Life moves pretty fast, if you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
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big_l
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posted on 18/5/12 at 07:55 AM |
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hi i was in you situation my self i went with the MNR VORTX im 6'3 and 17st and its got room to spare!!
i no MNR are nearly completed there mazda turbo demonstrator and are going to sell after its completed it was on show at stoneleigh
also there is lots of really nice MNR cars already built out there !!
i also agree the tiger avon is a proper basic car with no frills !!!
i would say look for one of the nicest kits MNR AND MK SPORTSCARS are the 2 best
but the MNR wins on quality of the car and service im afraid but you wouldnt be disapointed with either
i would wait till newark show and see whats there 16th june good luck with the search !!!!
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big_l
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posted on 18/5/12 at 08:00 AM |
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http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3808881.htm
Check out my blog mnrvortxhayabusa@blogspot.com
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mcerd1
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posted on 18/5/12 at 08:15 AM |
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as above 10k should give you a good range of options
your height could make some of them a bit tight, but the only way to know for sure is to try some for size...
the likes of Dax do a long wheelbase chassis to give those that need it a few extra inches and they also can have lowerd floor pans too (can be fitted
to the short wheelbase cars too)
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Norfolkluegojnr
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posted on 18/5/12 at 08:27 AM |
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Or buy mine
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3914872.htm
I'm 6ft 1in and have a bit of wiggle room. They are all fairly snug though, so if you like a roomy motor, be prepared!
Seriously though, Tiger's are nice kits. Dad had one, was a lovely machine. They used to be at the budget end of the scale, but seem to have
crept up in price over the last 5 years.
With 10k the world should be your oyster. Take your time, details of build is more important than mileage etc. A zetec is manageable for a newbie, but
will feel hellishly fasy compared to normal road cars.
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motorcycle_mayhem
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posted on 18/5/12 at 09:24 AM |
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£10K (or less, especially if the 'seller' is being 'realistic' will get you a very nice used Westfield.
It'll fit you well, with the seat back against the bulkhead (did me, I'm 6'3" , with plenty of width too for spreading any
middle-age lard that takes hold.
Zetecs, Vauxhall, whatever, it's all sensible stuff and very good. Avoid the Hayabusa Turbo dreaming.
Some of the MX5-based cars (with highly crash-resistant Euro-compliant chassis) should be available too at that ballpark, as long as the
'seller' is actually wanting to sell.
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A1
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posted on 18/5/12 at 09:35 AM |
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When I was looking at mk, I was taken for a ride by paul and hes a good bit taller than me, so you should fit in an indy.
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Xtreme Kermit
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posted on 18/5/12 at 07:32 PM |
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If you would consider an already built car, there are 4 Quantum Xtremes on the bay at the moment, one of them a 200 bhp lightweight aero screen jobby!
I am 6'4" and there is still room... Great cars! ![](/images//smilies/cool.gif)
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Hellfire
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posted on 18/5/12 at 08:50 PM |
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Welcome to the forum. The ultimate resource for kitcars on the big www. £10K is a really healthy budget for a kitcar and if it was my money, I'd
be looking for a Westfield Megabusa. Whichever manufacturers kit you end up going for, make sure it has a bike engine.
Phil
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Ianf
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posted on 18/5/12 at 09:00 PM |
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Thanks everyone for taking time to reply, some interesting stuff.
I am going to be at Newark show next month so will put off a final decision till then.
Untill then im going to research the MK Indy a little more aswell as the Tiger Avon.
Look out for me at Newark, I will be the annoying one asking lots of questions ![](/images//smilies/bigsmile.gif)
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T66
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posted on 18/5/12 at 09:17 PM |
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Im not running out of money (qualifier), but if I did a build again I would buy a built IVA car, and make it what I wanted it to be...
The difference between what you spend on a new build, and what you see decent cars on pistonheads selling for, is quite a big one.
If you want a floor up build carry on browsing, otherwise buy a built car and put your own mark on it.
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welderman
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posted on 18/5/12 at 10:07 PM |
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you have a u2u also mate at the top of your page
Thank's, Joe
I don't stalk people
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/forum/23/viewthread.php?tid=172301
Back on with the Fisher Fury R1
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Ianf
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posted on 18/5/12 at 10:59 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by welderman
you have a u2u also mate at the top of your page
Good job you said, i had a few
Cheers.
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welderman
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posted on 18/5/12 at 11:05 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Ianf
quote: Originally posted by welderman
you have a u2u also mate at the top of your page
Good job you said, i had a few
Cheers.
Lol
Thank's, Joe
I don't stalk people
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/forum/23/viewthread.php?tid=172301
Back on with the Fisher Fury R1
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40inches
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posted on 19/5/12 at 01:23 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by T66
Im not running out of money (qualifier), but if I did a build again I would buy a built IVA car, and make it what I wanted it to be...
The difference between what you spend on a new build, and what you see decent cars on pistonheads selling for, is quite a big one.
If you want a floor up build carry on browsing, otherwise buy a built car and put your own mark on it.
I think that's the road I would go, if I ever do it all again especially given the prices of built IVA'd cars at the moment. You can
strip and rebuild a lot quicker than doing it from scratch, and then straight on the road
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