skydivepaul
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| posted on 17/9/19 at 11:12 AM |
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on the lookout for a westfield
After a few years without a toy (not including my jetski in this  car, I'm on the lookout for something for next year.
Ideally a westfield as I built one back in the 90's and really enjoyed the car. I've had a BEC MK Indy which was great on track but too
fussy for the road.
There are a few cross flow engined Westy's around for the right money but looking further ahead I would probably swap out the engine for a more
modern unit.
What is the best route, zetec, duratec etc? and what are the costs involved in such a swap?
cheers Paul
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ian locostzx9rc2
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| posted on 17/9/19 at 05:07 PM |
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If you want a modern engined Westfield better off buying one all ready to go as converting from older engine car can get expensive
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perksy
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| posted on 17/9/19 at 05:56 PM |
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As above
Your better off getting the correct engined car in the first place as engine transplants along with all that's required (ancillaries etc) can
get expensive pretty quickly
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big_wasa
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| posted on 17/9/19 at 06:18 PM |
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And being well into an engine swap, I third what the two guys above say.
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skydivepaul
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| posted on 17/9/19 at 06:54 PM |
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Cheers guys, any indication what sort of costs?
Theoretical at the moment, just I have seen a few xflow westfields at the right money.
I may never bother swapping out the xflow but would be good to know a ball park figure as an option.
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big_wasa
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| posted on 17/9/19 at 08:05 PM |
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I love a Zetec but there nearly as old hat as a xflow now. Good engines are slim pickings. They finished in the Mondeo in year 2000 and 2004 in a
Focus. A lot of oval racers now use the Zetec platform so there is less choice than ever.
St170 is a better start but try picking one up with less than 130k miles.
All the install parts range from home made to bespoke of the shelf. You can spend thousands. If your xflow comes with a 4spd then check out the costs
of a good T9.
The Duratec is a better base engine but in my opinion more fragile than a Zetec.
Starting from scratch, I would be looking at the 1.6 ecoboost.
But the smart money will be spending a little more on the base car. It feels like a buyers market this year due to the poor summer weather and maybe a
few other reasons.
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big_wasa
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| posted on 17/9/19 at 08:13 PM |
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2.0 Zetec £200~£1200
T9 £300+++
Raceline sump £500
Flywheel and clutch
Hd starter
Alternator kit
Induction and Ecu. Omex Tbs and pre mapped 600 series ecu £2k
Exhaust system
New propshaft.
With efi you will need return fuel lines and fittings in the tank, fuel pumps and maybe swirlpots and maybe another tank
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skydivepaul
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| posted on 17/9/19 at 08:40 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by big_wasa
2.0 Zetec £200~£1200
T9 £300+++
Raceline sump £500
Flywheel and clutch
Hd starter
Alternator kit
Induction and Ecu. Omex Tbs and pre mapped 600 series ecu £2k
Exhaust system
New propshaft.
With efi you will need return fuel lines and fittings in the tank, fuel pumps and maybe swirlpots and maybe another tank
Many thanks, great info.
I have seen a xflow with a 5 speed so that will save a few pennies. Does the zetec need a different bellhousing / adaptor to mate up with the t9?
A good base car would seem the best way to go. my project budget will need to be reviewed.
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kingster996
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| posted on 17/9/19 at 09:08 PM |
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Type 9 bolts straight on to a Zetec - so the x-flow one mentioned will fit - but the clutch and flywheel will not.
As said, engine swap will be expensive with the engine probably being the cheapest part!
[Edited on 17/9/19 by kingster996]
I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure
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kingster996
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| posted on 17/9/19 at 09:32 PM |
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If you do get a crossflow engined Westy and want a project, then the engine to go for is probably the sigma. Not huge power, but makes up for that
with light weight.
Check out https://forum.wscc.co.uk/forum/topic/127473-crossflow-to-sigma-conversion-converted/?tab=comments#comment-1345039 for an insight into what’s
involved.
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skydivepaul
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| posted on 17/9/19 at 09:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by kingster996
If you do get a crossflow engined Westy and want a project, then the engine to go for is probably the sigma. Not huge power, but makes up for that
with light weight.
Check out https://forum.wscc.co.uk/forum/topic/127473-crossflow-to-sigma-conversion-converted/?tab=comments#comment-1345039 for an insight into what’s
involved.
cheers thanks for the info, will check it out
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JonBowden
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| posted on 18/9/19 at 07:37 AM |
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I am doing an engine swap on a pre-lit Westfield at the moment.
I can confirm that it is expensive and involved.
If you want a project then yes, it is a great idea but it you are just looking for a working car then I'd suggest getting one with the engine
that you want.
Jon
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skydivepaul
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| posted on 18/9/19 at 08:28 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JonBowden
I am doing an engine swap on a pre-lit Westfield at the moment.
I can confirm that it is expensive and involved.
If you want a project then yes, it is a great idea but it you are just looking for a working car then I'd suggest getting one with the engine
that you want.
Thanks Jon, your post echoes advice from others as well.
The sigma engine build on wscc is good and shows the issues that can crop up with an engine swap.
I had a 1.7 puma back in 2001, was a cracking little car
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