paul v6
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 posted on 22/9/05 at 09:01 AM |
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GSXR and big oil cooler???
Hi Guys,
I'm quite keen on fitting a GSXR 1100 oil cooled motor due to a number of reasons that suit them to a BEC, but despite reading a number of
archive posts have failed to find a definitive answer as to whether or not it is possible to effectively keep them cool??
An idea would be to fit a large cooler and high speed electric fan at 45 degrees allowing air flow via nose cone mouth to still reach the engine??
What do you think?
Paul
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paul v6
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| posted on 22/9/05 at 09:20 AM |
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Something like this+ big fan
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MikeR
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| posted on 22/9/05 at 10:06 AM |
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i'd also think of finding a way to vent the air to make sure it moves quickly past the engine.
Perhaps you also need a stat on the oil cooler to make sure that you don't over cool the engine (if possible).
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garage19
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| posted on 22/9/05 at 10:22 AM |
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I've always wondered about the fitment of air/oil cooled suzuki lumps in kit cars.
The bandit twelve lump is a stonking engine and very cheap to tune. If you slot in some new liners and and bore the crank cases you can even run
1371cc!!
I guess you would just need to ensure you have very good, ducted airflow through your engine bay?
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ned
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| posted on 22/9/05 at 11:09 AM |
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surely it'd be easy to put some ducts in the side panels for air to exit the engine bay from, use big hoses to route the air through, must be
plenty of space in a bec engine bay to do that..?
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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tadltd
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| posted on 22/9/05 at 11:40 AM |
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Why not use Porsche 911 oil coolers or a similar spec' (for the air-cooled boxer engine) - they'll provide enough cooling for your the
GSXR . I'd also recommend fitting an oil 'stat.
Like Ned says, ensure you duct the airflow and vent the body and you shouldn't have a problem. The 911 had it's engine in a worse place,
but it still performed! If you use a Pacet fan (or such like) that mounts to the heat exchanger with special zip-ties, you don't need to worry
about blocking airflow.
As the car moves through the air, the fan should be turning of it's own accord and directing airflow at the engine (due to the design of the
blades, it should rotate the same way as it would when switched on). You therefore don't need to angle it. If you're really worried, how
about mounting 2 smaller oil coolers on each side of the nose cone, with a gap between them to allow air straight through.
In addition, the longer plumbing will also aid cooling as the tubes/hoses themselves will transfer heat to atmosphere.
[Edited on 22/9/05 by tadltd]
Best Regards,
Steve.
www.turnerautosport.com
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MikeR
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| posted on 22/9/05 at 12:17 PM |
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i think the legends series use an oil cooled engine - they do have some issues with over heating.
(ok, i can't remember the series but i know one race series uses oil cooled engines in an enclosed body.)
find them and ask questions.
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phelpsa
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| posted on 22/9/05 at 01:48 PM |
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I'm using a GSXR 1100 oil/air cooled engine. The oil cooler i have is a massive mocal one (34 row or something), and should be plently. One
thing you have to watch is that the engine is quite tall! A subaru style scoop on the top my help with cooling.
Adam
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paul v6
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| posted on 22/9/05 at 06:32 PM |
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Would I also need to fit a dry sump to a GSXR lump??
Paul
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phelpsa
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| posted on 23/9/05 at 07:53 AM |
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No, I talked to Chris Allanson of Z-cars and he recommended just an overfill of oil.
Adam
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paul v6
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| posted on 23/9/05 at 09:00 AM |
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Thats a result!! Having seen a few dry sump systems and there prices my buget was looking well and truely blown!!
Paul
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phelpsa
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| posted on 23/9/05 at 10:09 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by paul v6
Thats a result!! Having seen a few dry sump systems and there prices my buget was looking well and truely blown!!
Paul
Yeh. The sump may need to be chopped, but someone like Z-cars can do that for not a lot of money.
Adam
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