steve_gus
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| posted on 8/1/06 at 09:09 PM |
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Scratch or kit build
are you building (or did you build) from a kit or 'scratch build' (true locost, no kit)?
(If you bought your chassis in, this is classed as a kit build)
http://www.locostbuilder.co.uk
Just knock off the 's'!
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ch1ll1
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| posted on 8/1/06 at 09:11 PM |
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still building
having lots of fun in the garage on these cold and wet days
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 8/1/06 at 09:13 PM |
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Lots of metal sticks all stuck together - took ages!
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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ch1ll1
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| posted on 8/1/06 at 09:15 PM |
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but did you get them in the right order?
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scutter
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| posted on 8/1/06 at 09:18 PM |
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Scratched my sorry ass(together), took several attempts to get in the right order tho
ATB Dan.
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Avoneer
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| posted on 8/1/06 at 09:42 PM |
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Done a kit.
Now doing a scratch built.
Much more fun.
Pat...
No trees were killed in the sending of this message.
However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 8/1/06 at 09:54 PM |
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scratch build 442 and I already over my budget.
Of time that is
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Mix
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| posted on 8/1/06 at 10:32 PM |
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Do I detect a certain air of pride here ?? 
Mick (scratchbuilding IRS)
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 8/1/06 at 10:33 PM |
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OH YES
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PaulBuz
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| posted on 8/1/06 at 10:44 PM |
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looking at the results so far ,do the MK, ST,MAC 1 etc. lads read this section!?!
ATB
Paul
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indykid
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| posted on 8/1/06 at 11:04 PM |
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so what did you vote pat?
can i say i've built a kit, but i'm also doing a scratch build too?
admittedly, i'll shortly be starting another kit
tom
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muzchap
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| posted on 8/1/06 at 11:23 PM |
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There are plenty of factors to consider...
I didnt have the welding skills - so purchased a ready made Luego Velocity XT chassis...
I'm trying to make everything else though - engine mounts, brackets, panels - might give the GRP a miss tho! 
If you have the welding skills, the space and the commitment, building YOUR own must surely be the way to go...
If I get this one finished and do a welding course - I may be tempted to have a go again from Scratch
If however you wanna splash the cash and be on the road for the summer - a kit might be a better alternative...
My 2 cents...
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Hellfire
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| posted on 9/1/06 at 12:38 PM |
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Muzchap, the poll didn't ask you for justification, so don't feel bad about it. Some scratch builders on here are still scratching about
and probably will be for years to come.
On the other hand, we've built two kits, crashed one and are now looking to build a third, whilst enjoying driving the fruits of our labour.
I used to play with Mechano when I was a kid - scratch builders just have a mechano set with a few more bits.
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 9/1/06 at 12:48 PM |
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My scratch build took over 6 years... 
Mind you, about 4 of them were taken up getting to a rolling chassis!
If I did another, it would probably only take me a few weeks, given access to enough mechanical bits, such as an axle, uprights, etc.
David
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steve_gus
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| posted on 9/1/06 at 07:54 PM |
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Thats Ok David - it doesnt make me feel so slow  (six years too)
The intention of the poll isnt to say one is better than the other - I was just trying to gauge the ratio, as its been discussed once or twice in the
last week or so
atb
steve
http://www.locostbuilder.co.uk
Just knock off the 's'!
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PaulBuz
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| posted on 9/1/06 at 08:35 PM |
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Hellfire
You made a good point.
I'm a scratchbuilder currently at over 4 years.
If you'd rather be driving than building then I can well understand the kit route.
ATB
Paul
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Marcus
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| posted on 9/1/06 at 08:52 PM |
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Just upped the scratch : kit ratio!
Marcus
Marcus
Because kits are for girls!!
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donut
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| posted on 9/1/06 at 11:17 PM |
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quote:
looking at the results so far ,do the MK, ST,MAC 1 etc. lads read this section!?!
Yup!
I wish i could weld well enough to scratch build. Idealy i would like a double garage so i can have a working car on one side and build a car on the
other. When the new build is finished, sell the working car and start again...and again...and again...
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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Dale
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| posted on 9/1/06 at 11:22 PM |
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Scratch here- but if kits were as affordable here as in the UK it would likely be a different story.
Thanks
Dale
my 14 and11 year old boys 22
and 19 now want to drive but have to be 25 before insurance will allow. Finally on the road
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Jasper
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| posted on 10/1/06 at 12:26 PM |
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Wot's all this crap about 'I can't weld so I'll buy a chassis'??
I couldn't weld - never even tried it before, bought a Mig and just practised for a while. Got a few pointers from a local guy as well. Now my
welding is not wonderful - but it was good enough that when I crashed mine into a tree (infact a whole line of them) NONE of my welds broke, infact
the only one that did was the only bit I got done my a so called professional.
Basic mig welding is not an art form, unlike something like plastering - which never ceased to amaze me when I watch it being done. As long as you get
the 'feel' for when it's going right it's quite easy to do to a acceptable level.....
And scratch built doesn't have to be much slower, you can get the chassis together in a few long days...
And once you have a mig you wonder how you lived without it. I've had to do loads of welding on the part built Stylus I'm now working on
to get the new engine to fit and for loads of small bracketry.
And it's also a very enjoyable thing to do (as long as you're not trying to do it upside down under the car - then it's a pig )
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smart51
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| posted on 10/1/06 at 12:36 PM |
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It took me 3 1/2 months to build my kit and 3 1/2 months to get the engine running, emissions to pass and get number plates. I can now drive the
car.
I enjoyed building the thing but 6 months in I'd had all the building enjoyment I was going to get.
If you want the car to drive then buy a kit. If you want the car to build then savour all those years it seems to take to weld one up from scratch.
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flak monkey
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| posted on 10/1/06 at 12:44 PM |
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I am doing a kit. Because I want to (read as need to) have my car done by the end of June 2007.
Being at uni means I dont have time to scratch build. Even if it would suit my budget a bit better!
My initial plan was indeed to scratch build, then I dicovered that no one would lend me a garge for however long it would take me to finish the
car.
David
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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