piddy
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| posted on 5/3/06 at 04:58 PM |
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log book or not
Hi.
I was just thinking about the two options I have regarding the registration of my car.
I could use the log book that came with my donor sierra. And end up with a age related H plate.
Or register as a Q plate and not declare I have a log book.
I have fitted a 1998 Zetec so I will have to fit a cat etc. but the way I understand it is if I end up with a Q plate then all further MOT's
will test for just a visual smoke test not the full emissions which means I could remove the cat after SVA and get the full power the engine.
What advantages is there to having a age related plate if any?
Comments welcome.
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graememk
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| posted on 5/3/06 at 05:02 PM |
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2nd option is what i'm doing. . .no log book for me.
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Humbug
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| posted on 5/3/06 at 05:15 PM |
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Have you used enough of the donor left to be able to get an age-related plate even if you wanted it?
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Avoneer
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| posted on 5/3/06 at 05:19 PM |
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Only advantage I can see of having an age related plate is that you can put a private plate on it.
Go with the Q.
Pat...
No trees were killed in the sending of this message.
However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
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piddy
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| posted on 5/3/06 at 05:50 PM |
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Humbug.
yes.
Hubs, Brakes,gearbox,diff,steering column.
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Hellfire
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| posted on 5/3/06 at 06:11 PM |
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Your vehicle will only be checked at MOT for visual smoke whether you have an H reg plate or Q plate. Go for the age related plate.........
Phil
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piddy
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| posted on 5/3/06 at 06:32 PM |
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My previous kit car which had an age related B plate was checked on the last two MOT's using the emission results on the log book.
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JoelP
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| posted on 5/3/06 at 06:32 PM |
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is that because the H itself predates 95 emissions? Good point there hellfire.
wouldnt the H age related plate be tested to the less strict 90/91 emissions levels? Ie, not cat requiring but still not as simple as visible
smoke?
[Edited on 5/3/06 by JoelP]
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Hellfire
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| posted on 5/3/06 at 07:02 PM |
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The MOT tester will take the age of the vehicle from the registration plate and also assume that this is the date on which it was first used.
A - If your car has an AGE-RELATED plate he’ll assume that the engine is the same age as the plate and do the test accordingly. However, if your
age-related plate refers to pre-Aug 1998 (‘S’ Prefix) you will continue to get the visible smoke test for the life of the vehicle REGARDLESS of the
age of the engine. Remember though that this does NOT include PERSONALISED plates as in this case the vehicle will continue to be tested according to
its age and NOT the vehicle registration number.
B - If your vehicle has a CURRENT/NEW plate or one that is after 1st August 1998, you will get a ‘basic’ emissions test, which is a basic check
conducted to set limits carried out BEFORE the ‘CAT’ test. If you pass…..GREAT. If you fail though you’ll be subject to a full ‘by-the-book’ CAT test,
plus remember that if you fail this you’ll also fail the MOT. Of course there are plenty of CURRENT/NEW registered kits running around with
reconditioned engines so in this instance you will have to prove the age of the engine to the MOT tester. Ideally you should have a copy of your SVA
MAC ‘pass’ certificate, which will be sufficient. Otherwise you will have to get a letter from the engines manufacturer stating clearly what year the
engine was made.
C - Cars with a ‘Q’ plate are regarded as being of uncertain age so therefore will continue to be subject to the visible smoke test.
Phil 
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stevebubs
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| posted on 5/3/06 at 07:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
Your vehicle will only be checked at MOT for visual smoke whether you have an H reg plate or Q plate. Go for the age related plate.........
Phil
Not true...with a 1998 zetec, it's a full cat test....
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Hellfire
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| posted on 5/3/06 at 09:57 PM |
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If your car has an AGE-RELATED plate he’ll assume that the engine is the same age as the plate and do the test accordingly. However, if your
age-related plate refers to pre-Aug 1998 (‘S’ Prefix) you will continue to get the visible smoke test for the life of the vehicle REGARDLESS of the
age of the engine. Remember though that this does NOT include PERSONALISED plates as in this case the vehicle will continue to be tested according to
its age and NOT the vehicle registration number. 
[Edited on 5-3-06 by Hellfire]
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quattromike
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| posted on 5/3/06 at 11:37 PM |
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Off topic
I know This is posted in the wrong place, but since we're all talking about it:
I'm using a K plate sierra doner But the engine is from a H plate calibra, now I thought about registering the sierra as having an engine change
with the calibra engine to make it easier to get an age related plate, Would that work ?
Or would using the gearbox,brakes,diff,driveshafts,front&rear hubs,steering colum,steering rack,radiator,engine mounts,M/C and propshaft from the
sierra be enough to get an a.r.p?
Mike
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Peteff
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| posted on 6/3/06 at 12:28 AM |
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You have enough for an age related plate without the engine. My mate got one for his MAC#1 with the XE engine.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Hellfire
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| posted on 6/3/06 at 12:32 PM |
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Yeah, IIRC the form you are required to complete for an age related plate is a bit vague, so it's down to your interpretation of what parts
you've used from the donor vehicle
If your interpretation differs from that of DVLA, then they should tell you.
[Edited on 6-3-06 by Hellfire]
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