andy_mullin
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| posted on 12/8/06 at 01:19 PM |
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Are Robin Hood Cars in trouble?
Can anybody shed any light on the state of Robin Hood Sports Cars?
At the Newark Kit Car Show I bought some wheels, some raceline 1.2. They were delivered with the wrong offset and no fitting kit. I have tried to get
them replaced with the Sierra Offset, they are on order I was told. After weeks of calls and emails no sign of them so I asked for a refund, no
problem we’ll pick the wheels up then refund you!! No you wont as you will then have my wheels and my money. Anyway they agreed to refund my money at
the Harrogate Kit Car Show, they have not turned up.
Cheers,
Andy
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graememk
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| posted on 12/8/06 at 01:39 PM |
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i wouldnt of thought so as they have only just been taken over. so loads of new money injected.
but i might be wrong so i'll stand and wait to be shouted at.
also wasnt there talk of them buying westfield on here a few months ago ?
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scotty g
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| posted on 12/8/06 at 02:06 PM |
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Don't think they are in any trouble but they have always been known for their poor customer relations, most of this was down to the original
owner but maybe the new guys are just as bad!
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bernard
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| posted on 12/8/06 at 02:07 PM |
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hi, i will find out for you , i only live four miles away.Will let you know
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Syd Bridge
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| posted on 12/8/06 at 03:52 PM |
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Find Volvorsport, he's very close to Robin Hood Sportscars, (he works there), so should be able to answer and help.
Cheers,
Syd. 
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omega0684
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| posted on 12/8/06 at 06:16 PM |
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i heard recently that a guy who had who had built a robin hood went for his SVA and the inspector failed him claiming that the chassis was weak in
certain places now apparently VOSA are backing their inspector 110% so what does that say about the robin hood chassis?not good news IMO anyway i
dont know what has come of it after that but maybe VOSA have been in touch with robin hood and there has been a massive shake up since they have been
over taken, and that maybe why knowbody has got round to refunding your money yet?
I love Pinto's, even if i did get mine from P&O!
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chrisg
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| posted on 12/8/06 at 07:26 PM |
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Heard today at Harrogate that Robin Hood pulled out at 3pm yesterday.
intriguing, nes pa?
Cheers
Chris
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Jonte
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| posted on 12/8/06 at 08:54 PM |
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interesting 
Click it
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mitch2b
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| posted on 12/8/06 at 09:02 PM |
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theres been talk of this on th RH site, bit like the take over talk about Westfield,
must be taken with a large pinch of salt.
unfortunatly RH and custormer service dont seam to go together, and i think its there anual hols at the mo, keep at it im sure theres a refund waiting
for you some where
as for the Lieghtwieght failure, yes its true, but several have passed at other centres, the builders waiting for more feedback from both VOSA and
RH
problem seams tobe the testers interpretation of the book, he wasnt happy about it being monocoque.with little real chassi to strenghthen it.
Mitch
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DIY Si
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| posted on 12/8/06 at 09:10 PM |
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quote:
he wasnt happy about it being monocoque.with little real chassi to strenghthen it
So what happens to other monocoque design cars? Or is it because it's all ally?
“Let your plans be dark and as impenetratable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
Sun Tzu, The Art of War
My new blog: http://spritecave.blogspot.co.uk/
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mitch2b
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| posted on 12/8/06 at 09:13 PM |
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post from RH site
http://community.rhocar.org/index.php?showtopic=12786&st=15
Mitch
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DIY Si
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| posted on 12/8/06 at 10:20 PM |
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Having read that thread it seems that part of the problem is the way the monocoque is riveted and bonded together. It says that one of the failure
points is having the front suspension points screwed/riveted on. That seems to be a fair point though. otherwise it appears to be because it's a
riveted ally monocoque. Having seen a few pics of it, I can understand why the tester failed it. Several parts look to be some what lacking in
strength and longevity. If it where weldes steel , it MAY be ok, but riveted ally is jut too weak/likely to fail early in its life.
“Let your plans be dark and as impenetratable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
Sun Tzu, The Art of War
My new blog: http://spritecave.blogspot.co.uk/
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 12/8/06 at 10:22 PM |
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That's pretty poor, even from a government run organisation.
Failure sheet stated:
"Monocoque has absence of structural box section in construction"
Errmm...perhaps that's because it's a monocoque? Seem like Vosa have an arse-elbow identification issue...
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 12/8/06 at 10:23 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by DIY Si
Having read that thread it seems that part of the problem is the way the monocoque is riveted and bonded together. It says that one of the failure
points is having the front suspension points screwed/riveted on. That seems to be a fair point though. otherwise it appears to be because it's a
riveted ally monocoque. Having seen a few pics of it, I can understand why the tester failed it. Several parts look to be some what lacking in
strength and longevity. If it where weldes steel , it MAY be ok, but riveted ally is jut too weak/likely to fail early in its life.
The point being that several have already passed in different testing stations.
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DIY Si
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| posted on 12/8/06 at 10:26 PM |
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Fair enough. Whilst I'm not an sva tester, should those chassis's have passed or is it just this tester being an ar$e? Purely in the
interest of a fair fight/arguement.
“Let your plans be dark and as impenetratable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”
Sun Tzu, The Art of War
My new blog: http://spritecave.blogspot.co.uk/
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iank
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| posted on 12/8/06 at 10:44 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
That's pretty poor, even from a government run organisation.
Failure sheet stated:
"Monocoque has absence of structural box section in construction"
Errmm...perhaps that's because it's a monocoque? Seem like Vosa have an arse-elbow identification issue...
Erm, no. Monocoques gain most of their strength from sill type structures, i.e. box sections. In a convertable the tintop (sic) manufactures have to
significantly beef them up to stop the chassis being floppy and failing the crash tests. If the RH doesn't have sills or a closed transmission
tunnel I can understand an inspector wanting to see some evidence it's strong enough.
Lightweight was designed by the 'previous management' and I read a quote on the Rohcar website that the boss claimed it was only supposed
to last a year or two as a trackday special.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 12/8/06 at 11:28 PM |
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Monocoque is French for "single shell", defining a structure that has a stressed "skin". Box sections may or may not be
incorporated into the structure, but their abscence does not preclude a structure being a monocoque!
Actualy, all the (steel) monocoque RH's I have seen have the top of the side panels folded around to form a box-like structure, does the
Lightweight do this?
[Edited on 12/8/06 by MikeRJ]
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iank
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| posted on 13/8/06 at 12:55 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
Monocoque is French for "single shell", defining a structure that has a stressed "skin". Box sections may or may not be
incorporated into the structure, but their abscence does not preclude a structure being a monocoque!
Actualy, all the (steel) monocoque RH's I have seen have the top of the side panels folded around to form a box-like structure, does the
Lightweight do this?
[Edited on 12/8/06 by MikeRJ]
Indeed, the word monocoque doesn't require box sections, but being strong especially in an open top car does (or other suitable structures).
Don't know if the lightweight has such sections, but I presume the tester who failed the design doesn't believe that it has enough of
them, or they are too small.
If VOSA are backing the tester none of the other test centers will be passing lightweights right now.
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scotty g
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| posted on 13/8/06 at 06:41 AM |
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I used to be a regular on RHOCAR (still go there now and then) and came very close to buying one of the Lieghtweights.
I was just about to send off a diposit when one of the other members who is a well respected engineer sent me a U2U warning not to touch it with a
bardgepole, the main point of weekness he pointed out to me was the front suspension
Looks like he may have been right.
Its a shame because i think its one of the nicest looking 7s in terms of its proportions. I also like the way that RH have taken a different approach
from all the spaceframes but it now seems that everyone else used spaceframes for a reason!
Cheers.
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Jonte
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| posted on 13/8/06 at 07:01 AM |
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There are 2 different test centers here in sweden that a home built car must pass to get on the road. Both of them has said that the RH lightweight
construction is not up to standard for road use.
Click it
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bob
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| posted on 13/8/06 at 02:46 PM |
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I remember this chassis being slated over 2 years ago.
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=10393
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Mansfield
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| posted on 13/8/06 at 03:21 PM |
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Quote from ChrisG in that thread...
The only seven Stevie Wonder can read.
Very, very, funny. I wish I had thought of that.
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LightweightRobinHood
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| posted on 14/8/06 at 08:44 AM |
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Hi people,
My name is Trevor Bennett, and I am the person with the failed Robinhood Lightweight.
I have built the chassis to the letter using RH's build DVD's - To say I'm gutted is an understatement.
For my extensive build website go to
http://www.lightweightkitcar.blogspot.com
I am dealing with RH to try and get a speedy outcome to this, but it is a hugely disappointing setback.
Thanks for all your kind words so far guys,
Trevor.
 
Rescued attachment LW1.jpg
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andy_mullin
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| posted on 14/8/06 at 01:01 PM |
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Good news for me anyway, I got my money back and a free exhaust.
They aim to sell 500 kits this year!
Thanks to all that replied.
Andy
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Scotty
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| posted on 14/8/06 at 02:22 PM |
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LightweightRobinHood
hi mate
finger crossed for you, not good news at all
did look at the rh's but decided to go luego instead.
btw nice looking car!
lets hope rhsc get their fingers out and start helping you with this problem, only time will tell though!!
PLEASE NOTE! All comments made by this person are to be considered "Tongue in Cheek" and are not meant to be taken seriously in any way - so there!
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