cct7kitcars
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| posted on 31/8/06 at 08:51 AM |
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cct7kitcars asking help from locostbuilders members
what i need to know what people think about our car i need input from other people if i need to change the stlye of it in any way due to new plugs are
to be made very soon
joe
cct7kitcars
Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
sideways, Chardonnay in one hand, Tequila in the other, body bearing battle scars and totally worn out, screaming- WOO HOO!! What a Ride!
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Bluemoon
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| posted on 31/8/06 at 08:52 AM |
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Pictures might help...
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ned
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| posted on 31/8/06 at 08:58 AM |
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you want to keep it individual when compared to other manufacturers so it needs some distinguishing features to make it erasily identifiable.
that said, personally I'm not convinced about the split nosecone grill thing (is that in the grill or part of the nsoecone grp?) the scuttle
looks a bit square where the screen frame comes through (only on models with screens though obviously) and I personally don't like the
lines/profile of the angled tube by the cockpit above the rear wings and the shape/length of the boot/rear panel/section -looks a bit vondicatorish
(which I think is an 'aquired' taste).
Nothing against you or you cars, they seem to have had compliments from the recent snetterton show, just peronal opinion on the look of the car at
first glance.
In some ways I commend you for trying to make the car look different to others but imvho the above points haven't worked.
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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Hellfire
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| posted on 31/8/06 at 09:02 AM |
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Pictures
HERE
IMHO - each to their own POV, but this car could be something which I would find desirable. As it stands there is loads of room for improvement.
The rear quarter in front of the arch does not follow any contour - it's a straight line.
The arse seems to hang down.
Rear arches seem too wide for the track/vica versa.
Front wheel arches are of a too high a profile, in need of reduction.
You did ask... sorry if I've popped your balloon. But in business it's best to be told straight than to be delivered a curved one and
suffer. I wish you all the success you need.
Steve
To ask for all our opinions in the first place is a very brave thing to do... but can be very constructive as long as you work on your
findings.
[Edited on 31-8-06 by Hellfire]
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whitestu
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| posted on 31/8/06 at 09:06 AM |
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I would echo the comments about the split grill and the rear end - I think the rear deck slopes too much to the rear, making it look heavy.
Also I'm personally not keen on the 'spoiler' on the front.
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cct7kitcars
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| posted on 31/8/06 at 09:10 AM |
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i have proved that the car is very capable round a circuit and with only a two litre bog standard pinto engine it was giving a lot of faster cars a
very hard time round the corners i know there are a few isuses how the car looks which i am addressing at this moment but the car will be a force to
be recond with in the near future and yes i hate the bar in the nose cone as well why do you think i painted it all black
Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
sideways, Chardonnay in one hand, Tequila in the other, body bearing battle scars and totally worn out, screaming- WOO HOO!! What a Ride!
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D Beddows
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| posted on 31/8/06 at 09:26 AM |
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I actualy quite like the bar across the nosecone - it might look better though if the opening was narrower top to bottom similar to the Westfield
FW400.
The styling at the back of the car does need to be a bit less angular though 
On a slightly different topic...... are you willing to sell individual components as your top wishbones are just the shape I'm after?
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 31/8/06 at 09:28 AM |
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On a practical note I'd change the 'spoiler' into a surface suitable for fixing a number plate... very few manufacturers do that,
making it a PITA to fit one.
I didn't mind the divider in the nose cone! In fact, I'd make more of a feature of it... but that's just me.
The boot area is a bit boxy, but the basic concept of a shaped boot that can be closed with a flat panel is a very practical approach.
I don't recall any other areas that really caught my eye...
...but some form of positive bonnet fixing would look better than 2 strips of gaffer tape!  
David
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cct7kitcars
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| posted on 31/8/06 at 09:37 AM |
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david didnt expect the car to go so fast so gaffa tape was a temp fix unless customers want ot like that
Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
sideways, Chardonnay in one hand, Tequila in the other, body bearing battle scars and totally worn out, screaming- WOO HOO!! What a Ride!
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Howlor
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| posted on 31/8/06 at 10:11 AM |
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I echo most peoples comments the only other areas that could do with a tweak are the round to square profile on the two back panel corners. They look
to be a nice radius at the top but go to a squared corner at the base. The rear arches would look better meeting the base of the rear panel. And
lastly the dash /scuttle design is a little square.
I do like the bar through the nose cone.
Steve
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Howlor
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| posted on 31/8/06 at 10:14 AM |
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Just to clarify the above point. I like the look of the scuttle from the side and front very much, the way it meets the screen support. But viewed
from the rear it just looks too square.
Steve
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BKLOCO
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| posted on 31/8/06 at 10:33 AM |
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To add my twopenneth to the debate the only thing that I think looks very wrong is what has allready been stated. The squareness of the cockpit side
of the scuttle just looks wrong.
I think the rear end just needs some subtle cosmetic tidying up to make it look as though it has been designed for both fom and function rather than
just function.
I like the slopey sides and would maybe make even more of a feature of them.
Whatever you guys do I wish you the very best of luck.
This industry need some innovation and at least you're doing that rather than coppying the masses.
Ps I like the front end (nose, grill etc.)
[Edited on 31-8-06 by BKLOCO]
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want!!! 
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cct7kitcars
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| posted on 31/8/06 at 11:02 AM |
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we are not on about that car arrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhh my web master should of taken them off the site can you remove those pics please
Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
sideways, Chardonnay in one hand, Tequila in the other, body bearing battle scars and totally worn out, screaming- WOO HOO!! What a Ride!
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smart51
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| posted on 31/8/06 at 11:05 AM |
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When I bought my car, I went round to 3 or 4 manufacturers at the Stafford show and asked them what makes their car different or better than any
other. Most of them said "Umm, err...". You should ask why a buyer would buy your car over an indi or a vortx or any other. If it looks
the same and is built the same then the only things you can sell it on are price or being the nearest manufacturer to your house. Personally,
I'd rather have a car that was different in some way.
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ned
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| posted on 31/8/06 at 11:07 AM |
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no offence, but if your website isn't upto date can you give us specific links to a car that represents what you want us to comment on? Makes it
a bit tricky as your website is where we're looking at the pics apart from those who have seen the car in the flesh. A little clarification
would avoid any confusion 
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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cct7kitcars
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| posted on 31/8/06 at 11:16 AM |
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on the phone now to the webmaster
Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
sideways, Chardonnay in one hand, Tequila in the other, body bearing battle scars and totally worn out, screaming- WOO HOO!! What a Ride!
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iank
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| posted on 31/8/06 at 11:38 AM |
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What about these pictures - taken at Snetterton...
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=51060
Don't get a decent view of the arse end though.
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StevieB
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| posted on 31/8/06 at 12:10 PM |
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I spent a great deal of time trying to find something a little bit different before giving up because there's not many manufaturers trying.
I agree with what most people are saying about the general boxiness. The only thing I'd say to be careful of though is that rounding things off
a bit and changing the front spoiler/nose cone a bit - you'd be quite close to a Striker (in my opinion).
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cct7kitcars
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| posted on 31/8/06 at 12:12 PM |
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webmaster changing pics as we speak
oh and by the way i have dropped from been vat reg so no vat on my cars so even cheaper
and i really apreciate all your help and advise thanks all
joe
cct7kitcars
Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
sideways, Chardonnay in one hand, Tequila in the other, body bearing battle scars and totally worn out, screaming- WOO HOO!! What a Ride!
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MikeR
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| posted on 31/8/06 at 12:13 PM |
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I'm guessing the car is wider than the standard book chassis. This is something i don't personally like - Colin got the proportions right
in my view, therefore i'm not keen on how wide the car looks, this also affects the rest of my comments but its also my view of most of the cars
on the market!
The whole back end isn't too my taste as the lines don't seem to flow, perhaps curving the rear passenger bit to match the arches would
make it nicer. Detachable wheel arches ala westfield would make a nice improvement for people in the future (although less profit for you when they
need a new wheel arch instead of whole tub).
Someone one here is making an Ali nose that has a ferrari shark nose influence - that might make it different in a nice way.
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cct7kitcars
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| posted on 31/8/06 at 12:15 PM |
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the wheel arches are sperate i just blended then in to the rear section
joe
Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
sideways, Chardonnay in one hand, Tequila in the other, body bearing battle scars and totally worn out, screaming- WOO HOO!! What a Ride!
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andrews_45
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| posted on 31/8/06 at 02:59 PM |
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Joe, are those top wishbones so you can adjust caster? if so they might be handy in a track application
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cct7kitcars
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| posted on 31/8/06 at 03:32 PM |
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yes thats why i built them like that
joe
cct7kitcars
Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
sideways, Chardonnay in one hand, Tequila in the other, body bearing battle scars and totally worn out, screaming- WOO HOO!! What a Ride!
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andrews_45
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| posted on 31/8/06 at 03:40 PM |
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seems a very novel idea, might have to see if i can use them in the 750mc locost race series
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indykid
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| posted on 31/8/06 at 05:31 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by andrews_45
Joe, are those top wishbones so you can adjust caster? if so they might be handy in a track application
but surely you can't adjust caster without affecting camber, and there's nothing to compensate for the other when you've adjusted
one.
they're just as limited as normal wishbones, as to get camber right, caster is fixed. am i missing something?
tom
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