richard thomas
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| posted on 27/5/08 at 07:39 PM |
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Helmet!
Is a crash helmet that has an approval for motorcycle motorsport use (i.e. ACU approved) good enough for hillclimbing/sprinting etc?
Reason I ask is that I am looking to buy a new lid for use in the car, and am looking towards a bike lid with good ventilation - something like an AGV
or similar, it would be nice if it could be used for sprints, trackdays etc.
Cheers,
Rich.
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 27/5/08 at 07:41 PM |
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not sure but I bet it's in here, there is a big bit about helmets
http://www.msauk.org/uploadedfiles/msa_forms/bluebooks/152-184%20Competitors%20Safety.pdf
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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AR-CoolC
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| posted on 27/5/08 at 07:50 PM |
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It probably is, but the thing to remember is that a bike helmet isn't fire retardant. Once you start getting up to higher spec bike helmets your
into the car helmet price bracket.
Something to think about.
Imagine what it would be like if there were no hypothetical situations.
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richard thomas
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| posted on 27/5/08 at 07:55 PM |
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Aahh, good point - hadn't thought of that!
Truth be known, I am looking for a lid that will be comfortable during my forthcoming trip down to Le Mans, hence leaning towards a bike lid -
ventilation and as rain proof as it's likely to ever be....AGV Airtech looking promising so far.
[Edited on 27/5/08 by richard thomas]
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TimC
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| posted on 27/5/08 at 08:46 PM |
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Hi Rich
You want a BS STICKER BS6658-85 TYPE A minimum for sprinting. I'm well happy with my FIA approved (SA2005) helmet from the States. Drop me a
line if you want to know more.
Hope all is well.
TC
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nitram38
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| posted on 27/5/08 at 09:59 PM |
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Last time I raced (1993) the scrutineer would issue a sticker after inspecting your crash helmet. Don't know if they still do that.
Another difference between car and bike helmets, is the aerodynamics are different.
You tend to sit up more in a car and a bike helmet tends to lift your head.
Proper car helmets have a shaped skirt around the neck line to help reduce the lift. Just another consideration before you spend your money!
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Wadders
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| posted on 27/5/08 at 10:19 PM |
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Generally speaking, no its not, you need an MSA approved (blue book) lid for competition use
Iv'e just bought a snell SA2005 approved lid and to be honest its not a patch on my old ACU Gold approved bike lid in terms of build quality,
comfort or finish, and it cost twice as much.
Most bike helmets seem to be euro approved and acu approved, but not MSA approved.
Another tip is don't buy without trying them on, i was going to buy a Simpson super bandit, which is MSA snell 2005 approved, and looks the
mutts , but was so unbelievably uncomfortable i gave it a miss. Saying that Arias don't fit me well either  so it's not down to cost,
but head shape.
Al.
Originally posted by richard thomas
Is a crash helmet that has an approval for motorcycle motorsport use (i.e. ACU approved) good enough for hillclimbing/sprinting etc?
Reason I ask is that I am looking to buy a new lid for use in the car, and am looking towards a bike lid with good ventilation - something like an AGV
or similar, it would be nice if it could be used for sprints, trackdays etc.
Cheers,
Rich.
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minitici
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| posted on 28/5/08 at 07:48 AM |
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As of Jan 2010, BS6658 85 Type A helmets will no longer be acceptable for MSA events.
Minimum will be BS6658 Type A/FR (fire retardent spec helmet).
Others acceptable are:
FIA 8860-2004
SNELL SA2005
SFI Foundation 31.1A, 31,2A
SNELL SA2000*
* May be withdrawn with effect from 01/01/2010.
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