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Omni

posted on 3/8/08 at 10:12 AM Reply With Quote
Buggy

Hi All,

Would it be possible to get something like this through the SVA?

http://www.desertkarts.com/desertpanther.ivnu

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joneh

posted on 3/8/08 at 10:28 AM Reply With Quote
Nothing that would end up looking simlar to that!

Lights, guards, etc etc






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Mark Allanson

posted on 3/8/08 at 10:48 AM Reply With Quote


Something like this, there was a company on the Rame Peninsular, Cornwall who used to make them, I think it was called chynoweth or something similar.





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rebelrider

posted on 3/8/08 at 10:59 AM Reply With Quote
i've bought one of theseclicky taken the 260cc 2 stroke out and im putting in a cbr1000 should be fun.
im going to change the roll cage too, so it doesnt look so rounded.

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Omni

posted on 3/8/08 at 11:46 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rebelrider
i've bought one of theseclicky taken the 260cc 2 stroke out and im putting in a cbr1000 should be fun.
im going to change the roll cage too, so it doesnt look so rounded.


Like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2BrzcPGn9k

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tegwin

posted on 3/8/08 at 12:19 PM Reply With Quote
If you built it as a quadricycle it might be a bit easier?





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neilj37

posted on 3/8/08 at 12:24 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Omni
quote:
Originally posted by rebelrider
i've bought one of theseclicky taken the 260cc 2 stroke out and im putting in a cbr1000 should be fun.
im going to change the roll cage too, so it doesnt look so rounded.


Like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2BrzcPGn9k

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WOW thats stable NOT

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worX

posted on 3/8/08 at 12:25 PM Reply With Quote
Nice and easily driveable then...
quote:
Originally posted by Omni
quote:
Originally posted by rebelrider
i've bought one of theseclicky taken the 260cc 2 stroke out and im putting in a cbr1000 should be fun.
im going to change the roll cage too, so it doesnt look so rounded.


Like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2BrzcPGn9k

O







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Omni

posted on 3/8/08 at 12:27 PM Reply With Quote
LMFAO! Interesting hey????

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mr henderson

posted on 3/8/08 at 01:38 PM Reply With Quote
Buggies are a thing of particular interest to me. I've always liked the UVA fugitive (the red car picured above) but it's based on VW Beetle parts which is a bad thing in this day and age. The other stuff referred to are basically just childrens' toys.

What is needed is a modern day on/off road vehicle which draws its styling inspirations from the past but which uses modern day donors, has the engine in front of the rear axle and not behind it, and which is a full size vehicle capable of accommodating two adults in comfort, has decent ground clearance and yet is perfectly suitable for a bit of rapid road work.

I've been working on this idea for a couple of years now, and now have the space and facilities to make a protoype buggy kit. I've also recently overcome a couple of minor design snagettes, so I expect I will have an interesting announcement to make on these pages within the next few months.

John






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Omni

posted on 3/8/08 at 02:37 PM Reply With Quote
^^^^^^^^

Tell more, sneak preview?

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big_wasa

posted on 3/8/08 at 02:42 PM Reply With Quote
I sold a gpz500 engine to a guy to put in one of them.

Perfect compromise

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madrallysport

posted on 3/8/08 at 03:06 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rebelrider
i've bought one of theseclicky taken the 260cc 2 stroke out and im putting in a cbr1000 should be fun.
im going to change the roll cage too, so it doesnt look so rounded.



I put a 400cc honda (old air cooled type) in to this -


http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/photos.php?action=showphoto&photo=29122007071%20(Small).jpg

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/photos.php?action=showphoto&photo=29122007072%20(Small).jpg

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/photos.php?action=showphoto&photo=29122007073%20(Small).jpg

Made a gear linkage up to the steering wheel, with a bar and made the whole yoke 8" longer (at the back), its ok but it doesn't turn in very well.

[Edited on 3/8/08 by madrallysport]





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Alan B

posted on 3/8/08 at 03:09 PM Reply With Quote
Couldn't agree more Mr H

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Omni

posted on 3/8/08 at 03:13 PM Reply With Quote
I was bidding on this but forgot it was ending..... Look what it went for DOH!!!

Fleabay

I AM WELL GUTTED!!!!!!!!

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mr henderson

posted on 3/8/08 at 03:52 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Omni
^^^^^^^^

Tell more, sneak preview?


It's all in my head at the moment I'm afraid. Although Ive already got the donor. Will start on the chassis as soon as the current customer jobs are completed

John






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mr henderson

posted on 3/8/08 at 03:58 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alan B
Couldn't agree more Mr H

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With which bit in particular?

I was thinking of rather more ground clearance than your attractive looking car, and an integral roll cage, so very much a cross-country capable buggy rather than a sportscar, although well capable of sucking the doors off most production cars on the street.

What mine won't have unlike some sand rail- buggy type vehicles is the long, relatively soft suspension travel, as I want mine to be able to go around corners

John






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minitici

posted on 3/8/08 at 04:53 PM Reply With Quote
Anyone know what the legalities of fitting a >15Kw engine into a "Quadricycle" registered vehicle?
Obviously it is no longer a Quadricycle - so can it simply change its taxation class or will it be classed as radically altered and require SVA?

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t.j.

posted on 3/8/08 at 05:04 PM Reply With Quote
above 15 kW it's a Passengercar (M1)
below it's a vehicle which be tested along the 2/3 wheel-vehicle regulations. (L7e)

What do you think off these



more you'll find here



[Edited on 3/8/08 by t.j.]





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Alan B

posted on 3/8/08 at 05:07 PM Reply With Quote
Mr H....particularly this bit is what I agree with.....

"What is needed is a modern day on/off road vehicle which draws its styling inspirations from the past but which uses modern day donors, has the engine in front of the rear axle and not behind it, and which is a full size vehicle capable of accommodating two adults in comfort, has decent ground clearance and yet is perfectly suitable for a bit of rapid road work. "

My interpretation is possibly a little more leaning to sports car than buggy as you say......I think there is going a new market segment..."sports buggies"

Remember, you read it here first..

Even with a bit more ground clearance and elbow room than a seven it will still out perform most production sports cars.


quote:
Originally posted by mr henderson
quote:
Originally posted by Alan B
Couldn't agree more Mr H

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With which bit in particular?

I was thinking of rather more ground clearance than your attractive looking car, and an integral roll cage, so very much a cross-country capable buggy rather than a sportscar, although well capable of sucking the doors off most production cars on the street.

What mine won't have unlike some sand rail- buggy type vehicles is the long, relatively soft suspension travel, as I want mine to be able to go around corners

John

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mr henderson

posted on 3/8/08 at 05:35 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by t.j.


What do you think off these



Fine if you never need to take it on the road. All the design compromises are in the off road, landing after taking off direction. I'd be interested to see what happens when something like that tries to take a corner briskly. Good job it's got a roll over cage, I think it's going to need it

John






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Fred W B

posted on 3/8/08 at 07:13 PM Reply With Quote
When I first starting thinking about building a car I was toying with doing an offroad style car, that would be very capable on road.

A thought I had was to have longish travel soft suspension, but to have a strap on each corner that could be clipped in to limit the bounce travel and drop the ride hight for road work.

Cheers

Fred W B





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Mansfield

posted on 3/8/08 at 09:22 PM Reply With Quote
I agree with all your ideas Mr Henderson, I have been trying to sketch the very same thing.

I have been looking at sandrail images for months, but have yet to layout a design that fits the practical dimensions I want with the style I want.

I can nearly get there without an engine, but that is not a lot of use. It seems to me a short wheelbase rail (I mean <2600), wont quite look right unless it is about 1 metre high. And that is with 8" ground clearance. I would not fit in that. Putting the engine at the front helps the packaging, but that isn't where it really wants to be for a rail.

I am sure more people are looking at this, but currently I dont know of any rail kits in the UK that I would buy. I am not fond of the Berrien, it looks too short or tall or both or too big at the back or too small at the front for me.

The back of this one is a bit different, I like that.

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This one is a lovely simplistic look too.

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rebelrider

posted on 3/8/08 at 09:37 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by worX
Nice and easily driveable then...
quote:
Originally posted by Omni
quote:
Originally posted by rebelrider
i've bought one of theseclicky taken the 260cc 2 stroke out and im putting in a cbr1000 should be fun.
im going to change the roll cage too, so it doesnt look so rounded.


Like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2BrzcPGn9k

O


Lol i LOVE that clip theres another good one on there the tube too.
but they both have live axels ive built a chaindriven diff for mine so shouldnt be quite so mental.

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macspeedy

posted on 4/8/08 at 06:23 PM Reply With Quote
www.dunebuggy.com
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