pinto
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| posted on 13/9/08 at 09:18 PM |
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What are robin hoods like
looking for a new kit
did not want to pay to much this time
had the tiger 2lt
just got rid of mr2 mark2
now looking at next kit
seen this robin hood
link
what do you think when i had tiger the robin hoods seemed to be frowned upon why
bad bits
good bits
thanks colin 
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mookaloid
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| posted on 13/9/08 at 09:42 PM |
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Somewhat heavier and less sophisticated than the usual MK/Luego/Mac#1 etc
But if you just want comfortable open topped motoring with 7 looks then should be a cheap option.
cheers
Mark
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 13/9/08 at 10:55 PM |
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The have a bad reputation because they are essentially a loose collection of bodges held together with pop rivets and cable ties.
The main problem with Robin Hoods is the complete lack of any proper engineering in it's design. I will concede the new Zero is quantum leap in
terms of design and build quality, but then again it costs rather more than the old kits.
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tegwin
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| posted on 14/9/08 at 12:14 AM |
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I have just completed a long build of a 2B...
And I would never, ever in a million years do it again....
Badly designed, doesnt fit together properly...floppy rear suspension pickups...
I would have been better getting a better kit, or simply started from scratch...
Dont buy one!
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 14/9/08 at 01:31 AM |
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Please dont buy a RH. As above - they are simply put, not a well engineered car. Then again - Tiger's are pretty agricultural in their
engineering too!!!
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snapper
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| posted on 14/9/08 at 04:08 AM |
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There has always been a general bias against Robin Hoods on this site so i would suggest that you go to the RHOCaR site for a balanced opinion and go
and meet people from the club at the shows.
The 2b is heavy but you are riding around in a full body roll cage, they are a collection of bits and pieces but there are more on the road than any
other kit. Any build problems have been engineered out by the club members.
The new Zero is a square box frame and ally panels so no difference to any other 7 in design
If i was to do another 7 well currently i like the Aries, both the kit and the man, if i was going to do one from scratch then the Haynes Roadster
would probably be the one
I eat to survive
I drink to forget
I breath to pi55 my ex wife off (and now my ex partner)
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mr henderson
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| posted on 14/9/08 at 07:31 AM |
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I second the advice about the bias against RH cars, there's a very active RH forum and the RHOC membership is huge.
The car you linked to is the monocoque version, so comments concerning their space frame cars won't be relevant.
Whether it's good value or not will depend on what price it goes for, and that hasn't been decided yet
John
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britishtrident
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| posted on 14/9/08 at 09:01 AM |
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With a barge pole touch not !
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mr henderson
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| posted on 14/9/08 at 09:11 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
With a barge pole touch not !
Reasons? I personally know nothing about that model of Rh, but it sounds like you do, so share
John
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scotty g
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| posted on 14/9/08 at 09:15 AM |
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The series 3 is not too bad at all and i would have no issues with getting one at all, i always liked the looks and proportions of this particular
model and wanted one for my first kit but by the time i had saved up it had gone out of production so i bought a 2B instead, biggest mistake i could
have made, it really was terrible quality and design.
If the S3 goes cheap enough then i would say go for it.
Cheers
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eznfrank
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| posted on 14/9/08 at 09:38 AM |
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When I was initially looking at kits prior to buying the Indy I called RH to ask if I could go for a drive in one and have a look round the chassis.
WHoever I spoke to advised me to call a day or so before to make sure the test car was available as, and I quote "we sometimes take bits off it
if a delivery hasn't turned up rather than let a customer down".
That didn't really inspire me with confidence. PLus at the time they seemed a bit uncertain about BEC options.
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wilkingj
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| posted on 14/9/08 at 09:54 AM |
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From what I have seen, you can make a very nice Robin Hood car.
However, to get a good finish, you have to spend a lot more time, fettling and sorting out. ie as people have said things may not fit as well, edged
needing to be smoother out and finished off.
So if you dont mind a lot of work making things really good, then its a good option.
I would look at the Mc Indy, or the Mac1.
Basically as with most things in life you get what you pay for.
Ive seen some nicely finished Robin Hoods out there, so it can be done.
At the end of the day, the effort you put in will reflect in the finish of the car and its final value.
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 14/9/08 at 10:56 AM |
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I've seen quite a few very nicely turned-out Robin Hoods, and I've seen a couple of horrors. As said above, it's all down to the
amount of effort the builder puts into it.
For this car - on the plus side, he's saying all the right words, e.g. "correctly registered". On the minus side, he says that
he's not mechanically minded - and ALL these sorts of car do require some mechanical knowledge to maintain.
But, if you're only looking for a car to enjoy on country roads on nice days (ha!) then it'll be as good as anything else. It will never
make a rewarding track-day car, but that may not be your intention anyway.
If it takes your fancy, go and have a good look - take a friend with a critical mind to counteract any rose-coloured glasses tendency!
[Edited on 14/9/08 by David Jenkins]
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Stott
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| posted on 14/9/08 at 12:21 PM |
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I've got one of those in the garage now. Undergoing total redesign. The rear suspension mounts are so inadequate it's unreal. The only
thing stopping the whole rear of the car folding up on a line about the roll bar main tubess is 4off M10 bolts.
The front suspension geometry is all wrong with the sierra arb installed, will need replacing for tie rods.
The single bolt in the top of the sheet pedal box cover is the only thing stopping the pedal box folding back as the brake is depressed. The chassis
will crack about this point in the end.
Front suspension upper w/b pivots are too weak (1-1.5mm sheet) they require ploating or similar to increase the strength. The chasis will also crack
just behind these mounts too.
The diff is bolted to the boot floor directly, (sheet 1mm)
I've admitted to myself a long time ago that it's not a kit car, not even a good design, but a pile of stainless which I'm going to
turn into a useable strong car in the end. I have had to build a full cage linked to the rear beam and shock mounts, braced forward against the
"armrest" bits, then study the weak points which have now moved up the body, fit bracing there, flex it, add more triangulation and
bracing, refabricate pedal box with adequate bracing, and so on, and on, and on, and on
So, in summary, incomparable to a properly designed spaceframe 7, chalk and cheese. They deserve the bias against them (I'm allowed to say that
being an owner) If it's been built to the
"instructions" then it won't last long before you have all sorts of things tearing out/off/bending/cracking...
If however you have the time to strip it to bits and make it properly, then I'm sure you can make it into a good car, I hope you can at
least!............
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 14/9/08 at 03:20 PM |
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having worked there , the monocoque cars are better than the 2b , and easier to make better - beware of chassis cracking tho .
if you have any doubts about it look elsewhere .
www.dbsmotorsport.co.uk
getting dirty under a bus
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Stott
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| posted on 14/9/08 at 03:35 PM |
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Excellent, some good news then for mine! I will make it work, I will make it work, I will make it work, I will make it work, I will make it work, I
will make it work, .................
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 15/9/08 at 12:02 PM |
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I bought a very cheap RH (series 3 I think...it had a folded steel monocoque with Cortina front and rear suspension) as a donor for my locost. The
floor pan had hundreds of nuts and bolts hold various panels together, and if you jacked up one corner you could visibly see the whole chassis
twist.
It wasn't all bad though, the rear bodywork fits a +4" locost quite well though, and the Cortina uprights were useful 
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 15/9/08 at 12:24 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by snapper
There has always been a general bias against Robin Hoods on this site
I don't think the negative opinions of RH's engineering are limited to Locostbuilders to be honest.
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 15/9/08 at 12:28 PM |
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With the way the economy is these days, the time of year, and generally poor selling price of kits at the moment - especially a part built, it seems
to be a buyers market at the moment.
Dare i say it but with so many part built's out there, its an opportunity for a buyer to go out and get a bargain with what could be seen by
many as a much better quality kit such as MK etc
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