If you turn on your TV now theres a program about speed cameras, you will either laugh or cry.

This will spark some debate.

Mark

that old bloke who got done when doin 13mph topwing his caravan is local to me, and that camera on the A62, manchester road in Slaithwaite has since then seen many many attacks with tyres and petrol and blowlamps

nowt to do with me, honest!!!!!!!!!

I have never seen a damaged camera but in the last two months I have seen two, not sure if this means it's becoming more common.

Copper told me not long ago that some cameras had a hole drilled in the back and filled with expanding foam, said it makes a real mess although you would never know from driving past.

Seams a lot less obtrusive than a tyre filled with petrol.

if u know me u know my thoughts on caravans.............ban em

13mph is what they all do flat out anywhere int it?

Jon - as you have strong feelings surrounding all things slow - what's your thoughts on Cyclists in a single file on a narrow road. Then your opinion of a Cycle Pack on a narrow road?

Shall I duck now?

Even worse, cyclists doing Sunday morning speed trials on the A14 in Suffolk! Every 200 yards or so you have to change to the outside lane to go past some pillock more interested in going fast than paying attention to traffic conditions. Of course, every so often you can't pull out 'cos there's someone overtaking you, so all you can do is slow down to 25 mph - on a 70mph dual carriageway!

Aargh!

Still, Darwinian selection sometimes takes over, as the cyclists occasionally get wiped out...

rant over...

David

there is also a counter argument that people with BEC cars might come scremaing over the speed limit sideways round a bend and hit your nice new caravan.

Everyone needs a bit of tolerance for road users.

Most modern cars are able to tow caravans at well over legal speeds. the problems are

a. a lot of caravan drivers are duffers - prob do that speed with or without it.

b. the law limits the speeds - 50 on a 60 and 60 on a 70 road. Used to be max 50


and no

I dont own a caravan

atb

steve

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and no

I dont own a caravan any more

atb

steve

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and no

I dont own a caravan any more

atb

steve

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caravans just anoy me, maybe i anoy other people, its a free country ask me if i care, i dont.

live n let live, except caravans

I bet driving the isonblade was better than towing a caravan any day

atb

steve

with a capital W in the "Was" bit yea, its the busy summer A roads that p me off, dont want to go screaming down em at 80odd+ mph but also dont want to spend 20 mins watchin a wobbly caravan doing 30 up hill n down dale, just keep up with the flow, or pull in for a cuppa and let the 3 mile tail back past,

can have a great conversation then at the caravan club about how we wound down the jacks in a laybye on the A17, had a loverly cuppa, wound em back up n moved on.........not a sole in front of us, the roads where empty all the way there, looked busy behind us though??







now then do i need another rod?

In Cornwall we have real reason to hate caravans

1, Most of the roads are less than 8' wide, and caravans are 7'6" wide

2, The flat caps driving them are more intent on the views rather than the road

3, We have 10 times more in summer than the rest of the country put together

4, They always get lost, and haven't the skill to reverse out of the ridiculous places that they drive into

oh yes, and speed cameras, we have about 10 in the whole county, and only 2 within 20 miles of me, and they arn't wired up because we know the contractor who fitted them, there is no power supply within 1/2 mile of them and it would be too expensive to lay a cable!!

5,They don't spend much money.

6, Chemical toilets

7. what?

8, luminous blue poo

9 every friday before a bank holiday i get held up on the a12 due to some caravan having tipped its self over cause people don't know how to drive with them.

Up here in the freezing North we have great roads and plenty of scope for overtaking

So why do caravan drivers insist on forming half mile long wagon trains driving nose to tail with a fag papers gap between them

Should only be allowed on the road individually and during the hours of darkness.

Mick

as with nearly all motoring problems, it comes back to people not knowing how to drive properly and considerately. i reckon regular retests would solve many problems, most people would fail so congestion would be down! only every ten years or so...

It might teach people to use indicators coming off roundabouts. I was waiting to get on one the other day and it was like Russian Roulette. I ended up getting pissed off and pulling out in front of a bloke who cut across 3 lanes to dive off at the exit before me.

yours, Pete.

exactly, and the fog light issues, tailgating, poor use of gears (more annoying for passangers than other drivers), jump starting lights or rolling off before they even go amber, handbrake use in queues to avoid pissing off following traffic with bright brake lights, anticipation, plus the obvious lack of mirror use.

damn i feel pinikity now!

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It might teach people to use indicators coming off roundabouts.
yours, Pete.

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Unless indicated by arrows on the approach you may use either lane if going straight ahead according to what is appropriate

http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/17.shtml



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Yes but its the ones in the left lane going right that are the ones to watch.
Bob

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Mark
fancy supplying the location of these two cameras, unless these are the ones on the big dipper ......

The two cameras were not in Manchester one was just outside birmingham on some A road and the other was on the way to conway North wales.
I never asked the copper where the foam filled one was but he said it made a real mess and no he did not say where to drill the hole. acording to him that was important. He was from Greater Manchester Police.

The reason for no re-tests is it,s to political. and as previous posts not looking out causes more deaths.

Only Monday this week a fireman in a big red truck t boned a car and killed the driver only a few miles away somebody was not looking.

Mark

give an appropriate signal (see Rule 162). Time your signals so as not to confuse other road users.

This is the bit I was interested in. It's the little flashy orange lights on the corners of the car. They all work at once when you park on the pavement while you are using the cash machine, know the ones I mean, because it would do some of them good to walk the ten yards from the carpark. If they've read the site though they probably think if it's going to confuse anybody I'd better not use them

yours, Pete.

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i was taught - and i think its in the highway code - that on a 4 way roundabout you can use either lane for straight on. otherwise 2/3 traffic would need to use left lane.

atb

steve

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i was taught - and i think its in the highway code - that on a 4 way roundabout you can use either lane for straight on. otherwise 2/3 traffic would need to use left lane.

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both lanes straight on only works if it is a two lane exit...

pisses me off when they actually have more arrows than exits, like in lawnswood there is 3 arrows pointing forward but only 2 at the exit! so you get squished in the middle!