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All out war in F1 Bernie V Ferrari
britishtrident - 22/12/08 at 02:44 PM

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article5372488.ece

Nothing we didn't know but the gloves are off now.

Richard Quinn - 22/12/08 at 03:02 PM

Although we did have a good idea, I personally did not know the sort of figures involved. I think that this latest spat is yet another nail in the F1 coffin

nick205 - 22/12/08 at 03:07 PM

The higher the stakes the harder they squabble.

What gets me is he fact that they're allowed to call F1 a "sport".

fesycresy - 22/12/08 at 03:31 PM

$80 million MORE !

But I suspect Big Ron knows exactly how much they get any way.

F1 days may be limited.

I'd rather watch a BSB or Moto GP round any day.

jacko - 22/12/08 at 04:34 PM

How Much

Hellfire - 22/12/08 at 04:56 PM

It was all going to end in tears... that's what happens wherever there's corruption.

Steve

omega 24 v6 - 22/12/08 at 05:23 PM

quote:

“The only thing he has not mentioned is the extra money Ferrari get above all the other teams and all the extra things Ferrari have had for years – the ‘general help’ they are considered to have had in Formula One,”


Well there's a statement to shut up every frigging ferrari fan that's always denied what the rest of us already new/ assumed/could see.

The rest of the teams will now be wondering how anyone else can be treated fairly.

RK - 22/12/08 at 05:37 PM

Fair and big business rarely go together. What's a few million here and there? All the principals line their pockets enough and are not going to starve, so it won't make the slightest difference to them.

It is very odd that the teams give Bernie the rights to advertise and get revenues, and then complain when there isn't enough money. They also complain when Montreal is cancelled, when the numbers indicate that the organisers couldn't pay the extortionate amount demanded by Bwana Bernie. So having your cake and eating it too is supposed to be business as usual. Get a grip.

907 - 22/12/08 at 05:49 PM

Just a thought,
but is "constructors" money split between the engine maker and the chassis maker,
therefore those teams that make both get a twin payment?


Paul G

designer - 22/12/08 at 08:53 PM

Bernie 'bought' Ferrari's participation in F1 with the 'extra'.

Without Ferrari F1 would not exist, and you always pay your 'star' player more than anybody else!

omega 24 v6 - 22/12/08 at 09:48 PM

quote:

Without Ferrari F1 would not exist


???????????? REALLY?????????????

caber - 22/12/08 at 10:21 PM

Given the state of the motor industry I bet the sponsorship from that side will evaporate next year. Once that is gone all we are left with is mobile billboards going too fast to read the ads. Eventually the TV people will refuse to pay bernie and the sponsors will refuse to pay teams as they won't get the exposure and we might get back to seeing proper motorsport again

Caber

omega 24 v6 - 22/12/08 at 10:35 PM

I agree Caber. Most multi nationals will pull out of many many sponsorship deals not just motorsport.
Just listening to the radio this afternoon and Landrover AKA Tata (who sponsor or have dealings with Ferrari) are asking to be propped up by the goverment????
I cab see the need to save the jobs but It would be difficult IMHO to justify throwing money at it if tata are spending cash on non essential sponsorship.???

britishtrident - 23/12/08 at 08:23 AM

quote:
Originally posted by designer
Bernie 'bought' Ferrari's participation in F1 with the 'extra'.

Without Ferrari F1 would not exist, and you always pay your 'star' player more than anybody else!


Yeah right ---
When Ferrari pulled out of sports car prototype racing in the mid 1960s because Ford humbled them Le Mans went on -- in fact some of the best years were in the Ford and Porsche eras.