http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1160958/Home-war--troops-greeted-abuse-Muslim-protesters.html
How low and sad can some people be ............ bast**ds
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1160958/Home-war--troops-greeted-abuse-Muslim-protesters.html
set the green and red caps on them 
Sigh. Says it all really doesn't it.
At least that lot aren't winning hearts and minds either...
I have 2 kids and i wonder whereb all this is going to end
Deport the ungreatful scum!
if you notice they were breaking several laws about incitement etc and taking pics of plod and soldiers yet nowt was done till a couple of locals went
to have words,then plod arrested 2 locals.......
facts are plod is frightened to arrest these "people" as they know it will end in a real riot,there is another parade in watford
today....wonder what happens there?
So you don't believe in freedom of speech then? or the right to protest? Or is it only people like you and who have the same views as you who
can make a protest?
The war in Iraq is a bad thing and has nothing to do with the UK or its people. The war in Afghanistan is no better. Whilst I don't agree with
much of what the Mulsim preacher is reported to have said, I support his right to protest against UK military action that is not in defence of the UK.
The protest would be better targeted at those who sent the troops in than at the troops themselves but I say let them protest.
the military are only doing what our so called learned goverment tell them to do, shows how small minded these demonstrators are,
i bet if they had a crime committed against them they,d phone the police & expect help/action/ result,
makes me sick!
if they don,t like living in the british isles then go somewhere else !
i,m NOT racist but the people like in the news story bring alot of it onto themselves then claim racism???????????
remember when fire men (not a dig at firemen, just identifying a point) where on strike & the army became the standby firemen? i wonder what the
demonstrators would call on/ expect if they had a house fire?????
hypocrits the lot of em.
sorry rant over.
andy
They'll be no arrests, there never is. Remember the anti-police demo these parasites held in London early last year? Not a single conviction was
pursued even though there were lots to be had.
Gordon Brown stands up and says their (islamic scum) behaviour was totally unacceptable but what will he do about it? Nothing, that's what! Maybe
we should all write to him and pressure him into action, but I doubt that'll work either.
The only way forward is to stop allowing these freeloading scum* into the country in the 1st place, and this spineless government isn't the one
that'll get that done.
Sorry to go on a bit about this, must get my mind back on my MK build which is months behind schedule!
* It's a known fact that most of these are claiming huge social security handouts as they refuse to work!
Well I cannot write here my thoughts...
All I can say is imagine the BNP protesting about suicide bombers on the London underground.
Animals.
quote:
Originally posted by coozer
Well I cannot write here my thoughts...
All I can say is imagine the BNP protesting about suicide bombers on the London underground.
Animals.
Its always a bit suspect when people quote the Daily Wail, and I think that this proves the point.
Surely freedom of speech is one of the things the soldiers fight for? And that means that, ironically, sometimes the people exercising the freedom to
speak will disagree with what the army are doing.
So, I dont have a problem with the protestors. I dont agree, but I stand by their right to say it.
Soldiers don't need public pats on the back; they don't do it for parades. They do it beacuse they believe that some things are worth
fighting for.
I wonder how many Muslem countries would allow a similar demonstration by christian emigres against their army and rulers.
Until they adopt policies that allow infidels similar rights in their original countries emigres should not claim these rights in their adopted
countries.
People who have no tolerence for criticism should not criticize, neither expect to be tolerated or respected.
Lots of assumptions here that all muslims come 'from abroad'
Thats not the case; there are 2nd and 3rd generation UK citizens who are also muslim.
So all this talk of deportation- where to? why?
Since when can we deport UK citizens because we dont like what they say?
quote:
Originally posted by Jumpy Guy
Lots of assumptions here that all muslims come 'from abroad'
Thats not the case; there are 2nd and 3rd generation UK citizens who are also muslim.
So all this talk of deportation- where to? why?
Since when can we deport UK citizens because we dont like what they say?
quote:
Originally posted by Jumpy Guy
Its always a bit suspect when people quote the Daily Wail, and I think that this proves the point.
Surely freedom of speech is one of the things the soldiers fight for? And that means that, ironically, sometimes the people exercising the freedom to speak will disagree with what the army are doing.
So, I dont have a problem with the protestors. I dont agree, but I stand by their right to say it.
Soldiers don't need public pats on the back; they don't do it for parades. They do it beacuse they believe that some things are worth fighting for.
i dont understand it would love to talk to them,and ask,why them why they done nothing whem sadam was in power and now they have somthing to say???
[Edited on 11/3/09 by thunderace]
Wowsers ...... some 'interesting' comments.
People have a right to freedom of speech. This means we have to accept the good with the bad.
We have a law about inciting a riot - they should have been prosecuted for that.
We have a law about photographing police / army as it could be used for a terrorist action (i kid you not!) they should have been prosecuted for
that.
If they had any brains they would have held posters saying "we support you doing your job, we hate the job you where forced to do".
I do not support or condone their actions in the slightest. They give the 95% decent muslims in this country a bad name and incite comments like
we've seen on here. This is what they want, divide, incite and radicalise - this is how they'll 'win'.
The best course of action is for every person to stand in front of them so the army lads couldn't see them and sing god save the queen so they
couldn't hear them. That way we'd 'win' by supporting our lads, supporting freedom of speech, showing a stiff upper lip & not
giving in or resorting to violence.
Great Britain is proud and lucky to have a non political armed forces. If we were not so lucky we would have coups and military governments like most
of the corrupt tin pot countries in this world.
The Army does as it is ordered by the government. It cannot pick and chose which orders it accepts, regardless of what it thinks of them. It just does
it's job as ordered, without question, as do it's soldiers, who often die in the process. If they have the discipline to follow orders
regardless of their own views, should they not expect members of the public to protest responsibly against the decision makers, and not in the cheap
stunt, publicity seeking way these have done. At the end of the day It's about power and influence, and these protesters have been mislead and
stirred up by those selfish individulas among them seeking gain and extend their own personal power and influence. Anyone would have thought they were
from a corrupt tin pot country!
Like Kate said this morning on GMTV "if you dont like the actions of this country you can leave".
So..... Foxtrot Oscar back to the rock you came from.
[Edited on 11/3/09 by ash_hammond]
quote:
Originally posted by smart51
So you don't believe in freedom of speech then? or the right to protest? Or is it only people like you and who have the same views as you who can make a protest?
The war in Iraq is a bad thing and has nothing to do with the UK or its people. The war in Afghanistan is no better. Whilst I don't agree with much of what the Mulsim preacher is reported to have said, I support his right to protest against UK military action that is not in defence of the UK. The protest would be better targeted at those who sent the troops in than at the troops themselves but I say let them protest.
Problem is the Taliban isn’t an enemy you can fight, they’re an idea not an army. You could kill all their leaders today and tomorrow new ones would appear. In a way their more like the mafia (but even more fanatical to the point they’ll kill themselves to kill you) and the minute the troops leave they’ll just be back with a vengeance.
by the look of these rabble they dont seem to be British,who said they were born here,they have no intention of integrating with the British here,if
they want their own culture why not go to a muslim country?oh no they cant do that as the authorities would chop their hands off for the drug
dealing,drinking,womanizing etc that they get up to here.
their aim is a muslim dominated world and they are well on the way to achieving it.
the majority of wars and trouble round the world involves them,bury your heads in the sand if you want but dont start moaning when you cant buy a beer
or a copy of playboy in your home town.
quote:
Originally posted by theconrodkid
by the look of these rabble they dont seem to be British,who said they were born here,they have no intention of integrating with the British here,if they want their own culture why not go to a muslim country?oh no they cant do that as the authorities would chop their hands off for the drug dealing,drinking,womanizing etc that they get up to here.
their aim is a muslim dominated world and they are well on the way to achieving it.
the majority of wars and trouble round the world involves them,bury your heads in the sand if you want but dont start moaning when you cant buy a beer or a copy of playboy in your home town.
Remember the UK is a mixture of many different cultures and had an English man asked a Scots man to conform to his ways he'd be beaten to death with a huge rancid haggis. So they dress oddly (though not as odd as a Morris dancer) and don’t speech Gaelic or Welsh and don’t worship my pagan gods but let them, really I don’t care.
IMHO... Using Scotts, English and Welsh as an example is not really comparable to the situation we have here...
These are (in some cases) ethnic groups who have moved to the UK simply for the benefits but will not allow any sort of integration... a little bit
like parasites.... although that word is a little harsh perhaps...
I will say again- whats with the assumption that muslims aren't British?
I have friends who might not 'look British', whatever that is. To be honest, lots of people dont look like the typical Daily Mail reader.
Thank god ;-)
These British friends also happen to be muslim.
Their grandfathers came to the uk in the 60's. Along with lots of Poles, Germans etc etc
So. british passport. pay British taxes. Support OUR NHS.
But happen to pray to a different God.
THEY ARE BRITISH!!!
And another thing worth mentioning, the frequent complaint about lack of integration.
The British are notorious for moving to foreign lands, but insisting on speaking English, going to British pubs, having HP sauce sent to them.
[Edited on 11/3/09 by Jumpy Guy]
quote:
Originally posted by tegwin
IMHO... Using Scotts, English and Welsh as an example is not really comparable to the situation we have here...
These are (in some cases) ethnic groups who have moved to the UK simply for the benefits but will not allow any sort of integration... a little bit like parasites.... although that word is a little harsh perhaps...
quote:
Originally posted by Jumpy Guy
But happen to pray to a different God.
quote:
Originally posted by Jumpy Guy
But happen to pray to a different God.
Eh, What "good" do the BNP ever do?
Whilst I agree that its a shame that people who are coming home to their loved ones are heckled - at the end of the day these protests aren't an
excuse for a load of racist rants.
There are massive generalities being made in this thread which sound very bigoted.
Personally I dont agree with what the protestors were doing, but they have a right to protest. This thread has disintergrated into a bit of mess,
which is a shame.
quote:
Originally posted by sickbag
quote:
Originally posted by coozer
Well I cannot write here my thoughts...
All I can say is imagine the BNP protesting about suicide bombers on the London underground.
Animals.
The popular press have a self-imposed ban on reporting anything the BNP does (good or bad) so we'd never hear about it anyway.
re being British,in my book that means adopting the British way of life and abiding by the rules here,supporting our cricket or footie team etc.
any clown can have a British passport,it means nothing,the acid test is what side would you be on in a war?
i see plenty "British" muslims have been found in afganistan etc shooting at our troops,does them having a British passport make them
British?
if they like it there so much why not move out there?
This is not about race but is about integration. If new arrivals integrate they are welcome, if they don't they should leave to a country where
they can integrate, regardless of race.
Through the abject failure of immigration policy (and Labours desire to import more voters), there could eventually be enough islamic fundamentalists
to swing the vote, and Britain could conceivably become an islamist fundamentalist totalitarian state, (the declared aim of islamic fundamentalists in
this country).
You may laugh but don't forget modern history, Germany was democratic before the Nazis got enough votes to gain power and then immediately
implemented a fashist totalitarian government.
We can also thank Hitler's extreme racism for ensuring that we all run scared of addressing non-integration in the modern world, for fear of it
being mistaken as racism.
Those who forget the lessons of history are destined to repeat them.
I hate cricket and football, they both suck
wern't the Nazi's Christian?
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
I hate cricket and football, they both suck
wern't the Nazi's Christian?
Their taking over?
How exactly, I only see a small crowd of protesters, mainly pi$$ed of cos the British and Americans are bombing their country on the orders of a pair
of T££ser who are only interested in securing oil reserves. Certainly I don't see many Muslims in parliament. I don't see any Muslim planes
and tanks when I walk down the street. Actually I see more Polish bus drivers than any other immigrants, perhaps their taking over and will hold our
bus service to ransom 
[Edited on 11/3/09 by Mr Whippy]
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
Their taking over?
How exactly, I only see a small crowd of protesters, mainly pi$$ed of cos the British and Americans are bombing their country on the orders of a pair of T££ser who are only interested in securing oil reserves. Certainly I don't see many Muslims in parliament. I don't see any Muslim planes and tanks when I walk down the street. Actually I see more Polish bus drivers than any other immigrants, perhaps their taking over and will hold our bus service to ransom
[Edited on 11/3/09 by Mr Whippy]
don't know mate looks like the Christian and Protestants are ahead -
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
wern't the Nazi's Christian?
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
don't know mate looks like the Christian and Protestants are ahead -
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
Their taking over?
How exactly, I only see a small crowd of protesters, mainly pi$$ed of cos the British and Americans are bombing their country on the orders of a pair of T££ser who are only interested in securing oil reserves. Certainly I don't see many Muslims in parliament. I don't see any Muslim planes and tanks when I walk down the street. Actually I see more Polish bus drivers than any other immigrants, perhaps their taking over and will hold our bus service to ransom
I'm not racsist but i do live in a town thats been changed/flooded by asians and my kids school in the last 5 years has now become mainly asian ...... and no longer has a nativity at christmas as it may upset the none christians ..... we have mosques springing up all over town we even have council signs in arabic so yes i would say "taking over" ....... my eldest starts secondary school this september where 52 different languages are spoken according to the head
smart51 - 11/3/09 at 03:23 PMquote:
Originally posted by mr_pr
quote:
Originally posted by smart51
The war in Iraq is a bad thing and has nothing to do with the UK or its people. The war in Afghanistan is no better.
I cannot accept your comment regarding Afghanistan.
Have you ever spoken to Afghan civilians? On what basis have you formed your opinion? When you have heard how they used to live (under Taliban Rule) and how much better their lifestyle is now you may change your view.
No I haven't spoken to Afghan civilians. I don't need to. The Afghan war is a mess and has been described as a stale mate by the British Army. Afghanistan hadn't attacked the UK, the British troops are not defending the UK. The new government in Afghanistan is regarded as half ineffective, half corrupt. This is how I form my opinion that it is a mess.
I take it that you've been there yourself and have widely canvased opinion there, and that you have seen firm proof that Afghanistan was iminently to be a base for attacking the UK?
Mr Whippy - 11/3/09 at 03:27 PMquote:
Originally posted by woodster
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
Their taking over?
How exactly, I only see a small crowd of protesters, mainly pi$$ed of cos the British and Americans are bombing their country on the orders of a pair of T££ser who are only interested in securing oil reserves. Certainly I don't see many Muslims in parliament. I don't see any Muslim planes and tanks when I walk down the street. Actually I see more Polish bus drivers than any other immigrants, perhaps their taking over and will hold our bus service to ransom
I'm not racsist but i do live in a town thats been changed/flooded by asians and my kids school in the last 5 years has now become mainly asian ...... and no longer has a nativity at christmas as it may upset the none christians ..... we have mosques springing up all over town we even have council signs in arabic so yes i would say "taking over" ....... my eldest starts secondary school this september where 52 different languages are spoken according to the head
sometimes teenagers mumble, it’s probably only a couple of languages
anyway your community should be praised of such commendable efforts to welcome new cultures. I notice road signs up here have both English and Gaelic for those stubborn English types who resist our conversion attempts, though we have yet to make wearing kilts mandatory on pain of death.
That may change…
unfortunately I have to go home now, but thanks for a great debate
[Edited on 11/3/09 by Mr Whippy]
jabbahutt - 11/3/09 at 03:59 PMIt would of been interesting to see how long their protest would of been tolerated if it had been held anywhere near parliment? bet the old anti terror laws would of quickly been invoked then.
Whether the protestors are offically classed as British or not it didn't exactly appear to be a peaceful protest. I'd agree that if you feel that strongly about the country you live in and despise the way things are done that much find somewhere that suits your tastes better. This applies particularly to people who came here seeking refuge from Countries which apparently wanted to lock them up or worse and were happy to come here and accept our culture of benefits only to then start demanding things are changed.
Unfortunately this pressure cooker is going to boil over sooner of later
BenB - 11/3/09 at 05:00 PMThe scare mongering Daily Mail are just as complicit in stirring up racial hatred as the nutty preachers who recommend radical action.
Personally I think there should be a healthy debate about the involvement of UK soldiers in foreign countries. That debate hasn't been had and, I believe, quite a few people are just as annoyed as the people demonstrating (even if they show it in a slightly more dignified way).
You're not going to get that debate if you listen to vitriloic bilious bull as spouted by radical preachers or arse-wipe newspapers like the DM.
As much as I would not want to turn my back on the soldiers in Iraq, what the hell are they doing out there other than turning a country into an extremely expensive training range for recruits? At least the action in Afghanistan can be supported on the grounds that the Taliban were actually implicit in involvement with international terrorism.
frodo_monkey - 11/3/09 at 05:35 PMMy humble opinion (currently serving in the military) is that, although rather distasteful, the protests must be allowed otherwise it makes a mockery of what we in the Forces do.
As I have been told (and told others) before, we might not like what you have to say - but we will fight to the death to defend your right to say it.
These Anglians are merely the instruments of a policy driven by No. 10; I think the protest might work better directed there.
And, for what its worth, I wonder how many of these protestors would have the courage to walk down Colchester/Aldershot/wherever high street on a Saturday night and say it?!
theconrodkid - 11/3/09 at 07:18 PMhttp://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ee5_1236718042
that told em
BenB - 11/3/09 at 08:11 PMquote:
Originally posted by theconrodkid
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ee5_1236718042
that told em
Great.
Makes you proud to be British.
One load of ignorant brain-washed idiots shouting and swearing at another.
FA cup anyone?
