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eznfrank - 9/5/09 at 07:38 AM

Linky to BBC - World's smallest car

Apologies if this has been posted before but this caught my eye on the news.

Some bloke took a postman pat kiddies ride and stuck a modded quad bike inside it. Vid shows him driving it on the road with a plate on so I'm guessing he's had it SVA'd? Or maybe he didn't need to as he used the quad chassis?


StevieB - 9/5/09 at 07:42 AM

I know they alays seem like a daft joke, but all I envisage is a sleeker body and aeroscreen with a cbr600 engine....


splitrivet - 9/5/09 at 07:47 AM

Ace, love the key sticking out the back.
Cheers,
Bob


Danozeman - 9/5/09 at 07:53 AM

Thats cool.


jabs - 9/5/09 at 07:54 AM

quick check on reg shows it to be a 2008 149cc shanghi - presume thats the quad bike. The report described it as 're-enginered' so depends on if he modified the chassis at all. presume it's just the case of another builder "stretching" the rules and not putting it through an SVA when it may have actually needed one

[Edited on 9/5/09 by jabs]


big_wasa - 9/5/09 at 08:17 AM

It just showed that on the news. I think its great but he did say and show that it had been completly re-enginered.

So yes a very large stretch of the rules


theconrodkid - 9/5/09 at 08:49 AM

there,s a postman pat van at my local tesco..........


COREdevelopments - 9/5/09 at 11:54 AM

what a cool idea, wouldnt drive it on the road though.


Guinness - 9/5/09 at 02:05 PM

quote:
Originally posted by theconrodkid
there,s a postman pat van at my local tesco..........


How do you know it's not this bloke getting his shopping in?

You could get free parking in every supermarket and shopping centre in the country, and if you put some flashing lights / a speaker & a coin slot in it, it might even make you money as kids got in it while you did your shopping!

Mike


JoelP - 9/5/09 at 03:52 PM

might not need an SVA anyway, all he's done is lowered it and stuck a body on


mr henderson - 9/5/09 at 04:09 PM

I would say that that is a huge stretch of the rules, and there is no way that vehicle doesn't need an SVA.

It wouldn't even pass the construction and use regulations, especially with respect to the height and width of the lighting

We had all this before with the BBC, when they showed the lowest 'road legal' car in the world, and it wasn't road legal either. Perhaps they shouldn't just take the owner's word for it.

John


JoelP - 9/5/09 at 04:19 PM

why does it need an SVA mr henderson? Assuming he might have done nothing more than lowered it and added a body, which certainly doesnt count as a radical modification.


mr henderson - 9/5/09 at 06:01 PM

Seems radical enough to me. All depends on the definition of 'radical', although I don't think that word is in the regulations. I have a feeling it more like 'substantial'. I'll have a look later.

Anyway, even if it doesn't need an SVA (although I think it does), it still has to meet the Construction and Use regulations.

You can call me John, BTW, no need to be formal

John


mr henderson - 9/5/09 at 06:53 PM

Just had another look at the video

"the (quad) had to be completely re-engineered"

Also, the car itself is 1000mm high. to meet the minimum height regulations, the bottom of the headlights need to be 500mm from the ground, and it's obvious that they are not.

It may be a car, and it may be small, but road legal it ain't.

I'm not against this sort of thing at all, although it may sound like it, what bugs me is people driving around in vehicles that break the rules when the rest of us have to abide by them

John


Guinness - 9/5/09 at 08:00 PM

Is there not an exemption for quadricycles?

Very low weight, combined with a low output engine?

Mike


iank - 9/5/09 at 08:15 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Guinness
Is there not an exemption for quadricycles?

Very low weight, combined with a low output engine?

Mike


Yes MSVA rules apply for Quadricycles depending on weight and power

quote:
Quadricycle is a 4 wheeled vehicle of which there are two classes:
(i) light quadricycles whose unladen mass is not more than 350kg, not including the mass of the batteries in case of electric vehicles, whose maximum design speed is
not more than 45km/h. These vehicles shall be considered to be mopeds and shall fulfil the technical requirements applicable to mopeds; and,

(ii) quadricycles other than those in (i), whose unladen mass is not more than 400kg (550kg for vehicles intended for carrying goods), not including the mass of batteries in
the case of electric vehicles, and whose maximum net engine power does not exceed 15kW. These vehicles shall be considered to be motor tricycles and must fulfil the
technical requirements applicable to motor tricycles.



So I suspect Pats van is actually a moped in the eyes of the law.

[Edited on 9/5/09 by iank]