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woodster - 21/5/09 at 02:05 PM

she should have claimed for some metal polish for her neck ...... cheeky cow

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5357930/MPs-expenses-Ruth-Kelly-claimed-thousands-for-damage-despite-insurance.html


balidey - 21/5/09 at 02:27 PM

Where's Guy Fawkes when you need him?

We let of fireworks every year in his honour and he FAILED. Imagine the party we would have if someone actually DID blow up parliament.


omega0684 - 21/5/09 at 02:27 PM

shoot her!


Mr Whippy - 21/5/09 at 02:30 PM

It just gets worse & worse

To think of all those single mums & their kids living on practically nothing and this lot are squandering tax money on furnishings for their 'other' homes

Where’s the Gestapo police force when you need them?


wilkingj - 21/5/09 at 02:36 PM

Feck... You can claim THAT much for your home!..

I'm in the WRONG Job.

Bah!!..... Never trust a politician!!!


tegwin - 21/5/09 at 02:36 PM

I dont know what is more concerning... the fact that the rules are so bent to let them to this... or the fact that these people have so little moral fibre and grip on reality that they dont seem to realise/care that they are spending more than most people earn on pointless garbage!

Some people need a reality check!


l0rd - 21/5/09 at 02:37 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
It just gets worse & worse

To think of all those single mums & their kids living on practically nothing and this lot are squandering tax money on furnishings for their 'other' homes

Where’s the Gestapo police force when you need them?


Mr Whippy don't you start me with single mothers living with nothing etc.... due to my work, i know about it and what is see is

They get all the benefits and support they need, always complaining about not having money and every day I see them coming in at where I work with brand new Ipods, Iphones, laptops and saying I just got this this that a brand new 40inch TFT TV etc…….

As for the MPs, I thought Greece was bad on this. Obviously not!!!


02GF74 - 21/5/09 at 02:43 PM

that's truly awful and breaks my heart,

why should anyone put up with a 40 inch screen when there are 60 inchers around!!


jabbahutt - 21/5/09 at 02:45 PM

This unfortunately isn't a new problem. If you're interested google the speech that Oliver Cromwell gave to parliment when he came to power, the coincidences are unbelievable. Basically he condemed all those in parliment for being corrupt and without morals and worshiping gold instead of God.
I couldn't believe it when I read it.

Makes you wonder what enraged the Fawkes so much that he tried what he did. Maybe he found out what they were wasting his money on!!

Use the street lamps on Westminster bridge for something decent and hang the lot of them!! After all stealing from us/the country, therefore betraying us could be considered treason which still carries the death penalty!!

Bring it on and televise it.


whitestu - 21/5/09 at 02:50 PM

It's OK - they've got rid of the speaker now - he made them do it!


wilkingj - 21/5/09 at 02:51 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
It just gets worse & worse

To think of all those single mums & their kids living on practically nothing and this lot are squandering tax money on furnishings for their 'other' homes

Where’s the Gestapo police force when you need them?


Yes and those young Mums cant be arsed to go to their GP and say I want to be on the Pill. Christ... its even FREE these days.

They get themselves in those positions, its of their own making.
I have little sympathy for them.

When I was young, I always used a condom as I didnt want a financial millstone around my neck (unless it was with the right girl - ie marriage etc)
Whats more in those days, the STI's were ALL curable with a dose of penecillin. Nowadays its a possible infertility or even a Death Sentence. AND STILL they dont take notice.

The youngsters of today think they have a God given right to claim benefits even though they got themselves in that situation.

The old adage "You Reap what you Sow" is still true today.

Sorry... I have every sympathy if they fall on hard times through no fault of their own. But for most its self inflicted.
Get pregnant and the state gives you a flat / roof over your head, all paid for by the hard working people who have jobs.

As for these politicians. They are educated enough to know exactly what they were doing. They should face Fraud Charges, and be sent to the penal colonies.





Footnote....


Ahh I feel so much better with that off my chest.
As for my political stance... well its somewhere to the right of Atilla the Hun (only joking)


l0rd - 21/5/09 at 02:54 PM

Well said wilkingj


wilkingj - 21/5/09 at 02:55 PM

quote:
Originally posted by whitestu
It's OK - they've got rid of the speaker now - he made them do it!


What... Only down to 6.1 on their Hi Fi / Surround Sound...

It must be awful for them


jabbahutt - 21/5/09 at 03:03 PM

Not long now and we can let our anger be known. Good excuse to vote for a party who haven 't had a go at running the country such as UKIP.
If they haven't had many MP's they can't of been that corrupt.


Hellfire - 21/5/09 at 03:12 PM

The fact that the UK population is so disillusioned with the whole lot of them that it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest of the lowest turnover in history!

I truly hope I'm wrong and that Labour and Tories get a total and utter thrashing by the Independents... but honestly lads, will it really change anything!


wilkingj - 21/5/09 at 03:18 PM

quote:
Originally posted by jabbahutt
Not long now and we can let our anger be known. Good excuse to vote for a party who haven 't had a go at running the country such as UKIP.
If they haven't had many MP's they can't of been that corrupt.


No.. Nooo! I'm voting for Attilla the Hun, he would sort it all out!!

On a saner note, its things like this that give the BNP a big leg up. Mind You, I'm not too sure I would want them in power either.


graememk - 21/5/09 at 04:35 PM

when i was a sales rep my boss never checked what i claimed for on my expenses ever, i didnt really take advantage to much maybe the odd meal or two, i used to stay at hotels for weeks and i never went for the best alwasy the 2nd best as i treated the money as my own, i even used to put my own fuel in the company car at the weekend.

dont get me wrong i wasnt a saint but nothing that would stop me going to heaven over.


ashg - 21/5/09 at 04:53 PM

i work for local government. if people take the mick out of their expenses they are very quickly given their marching orders.


scudderfish - 21/5/09 at 05:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by jabbahutt
Not long now and we can let our anger be known. Good excuse to vote for a party who haven 't had a go at running the country such as UKIP.
If they haven't had many MP's they can't of been that corrupt.


You must have missed the smiley off the end as one of their MEPs is in prison for corruption.


clairetoo - 21/5/09 at 06:48 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scudderfish
quote:
Originally posted by jabbahutt
Not long now and we can let our anger be known. Good excuse to vote for a party who haven 't had a go at running the country such as UKIP.
If they haven't had many MP's they can't of been that corrupt.


You must have missed the smiley off the end as one of their MEPs is in prison for corruption.

If he had been conservative he would have got a knighthood or a seat in the house of lords


focijohn - 21/5/09 at 09:12 PM

quote:
Originally posted by whitestu
It's OK - they've got rid of the speaker now - he made them do it!


Skum...how would we be treated if we commited benifit fraud? They're even advertising they're doing something about it .... hyppocritical to say the least.

I dont understand as to why they need a second home allowance anyway... plenty of people have to commute to get to work. Welcome to the real world.

John


Rod Ends - 21/5/09 at 11:51 PM

Oliver Cromwell Speech - Dissolution of the Long Parliament
Dissolution of the Long Parliament by Oliver Cromwell given to the House of Commons, 20 April 1653

quote:

It is high time for me to put an end to your sitting in this place, which you have dishonored by your contempt of all virtue, and defiled by your practice of every vice;
ye are a factious crew, and enemies to all good government;
ye are a pack of mercenary wretches, and would like Esau sell your country for a mess of pottage, and like Judas betray your God for a few pieces of money.
Is there a single virtue now remaining amongst you?
Is there one vice you do not possess?
Ye have no more religion than my horse;
gold is your God;
which of you have not barter'd your conscience for bribes?
Is there a man amongst you that has the least care for the good of the Commonwealth?
Ye sordid prostitutes have you not defil'd this sacred place, and turn'd the Lord's temple into a den of thieves, by your immoral principles and wicked practices?
Ye are grown intolerably odious to the whole nation;
you were deputed here by the people to get grievances redress'd, are yourselves gone!
So! Take away that shining bauble there, and lock up the doors.

In the name of God, go!


Badger_McLetcher - 22/5/09 at 12:03 AM

quote:
Originally posted by wilkingj
The youngsters of today think they have a God given right to claim benefits even though they got themselves in that situation.


I feel I must put in a well deserved "OI!" on that one As ever over generalisation is a bad thing! Though at 25 not sure I class as a youngster any more.
As for this whole affair... pfah! As someone said the other night, if you put out a trough expect the pigs to get their snouts in it.
TBH I think that one of the big problems with politics is the amount of them who get into it for the money.
At the same time it is important that politicians be paid a reasonable wage, otherwise the only people who can afford to get into politics are those with money... and that would be even worse than those who are trying to get money.
I say pay them a flat rate wage like the rest of them (£60,000 is more than suitable), plus allowances to run an office and that's it. As for staying in london have a bunk house. My Grandad reckons (and I agree) they should tow one of the cross channel ferry's they're retiring up the thames and use that


02GF74 - 22/5/09 at 11:48 AM

quote:
Originally posted by focijohn

I dont understand as to why they need a second home allowance anyway... plenty of people have to commute to get to work. Welcome to the real world.




I didn't see it but a friend told me of Jeremy Paxman interviewing some politician.

He asked him why he needed to have a second home. Politician replied it is esential since politicians need to be in certain places at a certain time.

Paxman replied: you mean like a job?


woodster - 22/5/09 at 12:06 PM

I'm still as hell with that cheeky cow buying stuff in London then having it delivered to Bolton ....... bloody insult to injury or what ggggggrrrrrrrrr


cd.thomson - 22/5/09 at 12:08 PM

remember to vote independent


Ninehigh - 22/5/09 at 11:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by focijohn
I dont understand as to why they need a second home allowance anyway... plenty of people have to commute to get to work. Welcome to the real world.

John


Not that many people commute from Carlisle to London though....

quote:
Originally posted by Rod Ends
Oliver Cromwell Speech - Dissolution of the Long Parliament
Dissolution of the Long Parliament by Oliver Cromwell given to the House of Commons, 20 April 1653

quote:
It is high time for me to put an end to your sitting in this place, which you have dishonored by your contempt of all virtue, and defiled by your practice of every vice;
ye are a factious crew, and enemies to all good government;
ye are a pack of mercenary wretches, and would like Esau sell your country for a mess of pottage, and like Judas betray your God for a few pieces of money.
Is there a single virtue now remaining amongst you?
Is there one vice you do not possess?
Ye have no more religion than my horse;
gold is your God;
which of you have not barter'd your conscience for bribes?
Is there a man amongst you that has the least care for the good of the Commonwealth?
Ye sordid prostitutes have you not defil'd this sacred place, and turn'd the Lord's temple into a den of thieves, by your immoral principles and wicked practices?
Ye are grown intolerably odious to the whole nation;
you were deputed here by the people to get grievances redress'd, are yourselves gone!
So! Take away that shining bauble there, and lock up the doors.

In the name of God, go!



Get me into the house of commons and I'll stand in front of the speaker and shout that out loud. I'll even write it out in pen and PAY the congestion charge!


keithice - 23/5/09 at 09:10 AM

They expect the unemployed to take a job anywhere within a one and a half hour commute...

so anyone within a public transport travel (travel expenses paid) time of Westminister of an hour and half lives in their own home with an office supplied by by us in a purpose built building controlled exactly like any other civil service/department (security.. maintenance.. etc ).

If you live outside the travel zone, we (the public) buy houses or flats close to Westminister which are supplied for the duration of their term in office. just like downing street is...

a central repositry of furniture/cookers/tv's/computers/fridges etc.. a choice of four or five of each to choose from on loan.. for the duration of each term.. if you don't like whats on offer then you buy your own..

At the end of your parliamentry term , if you win you can get it redecorated (again you get a selection of styles and again if you want something different.... you pay for it)

If you lose your seat you move out and the MP who replaces you gets it redecorated and refurnished in their choice from the repositry before they move in..

If they don't like or want the accomodation on offer.. they supply and pay for their own...

Broken loo seats, boiler problems, changing bulbs wouldn't be a problem as it would be under maintenance contracts just like any other government department..

It would not be cheap to set up or even run but I think it would fairer and probably cheaper to run than the present system.. It also not be open to abuse or censure..

This system was how my family lived in Hong Kong (my dad was a civil servant.. and you you paid 7% of your salary for the privilege... the longer you were there, the more senior you became and higher and better the housing available to you) It wasn't perfect but if you didn't want it you could buy or rent your own