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Jon Ison - 19/6/09 at 05:42 PM

A step to far ?


omega0684 - 19/6/09 at 05:44 PM

errr ?????


Steve G - 19/6/09 at 05:45 PM

Terminating the contracts of those illegally striking and telling them to reapply if they actually want their jobs?? The strikers didnt turn up for work so deserved to get sacked in my eyes.


blakep82 - 19/6/09 at 05:47 PM

jon, your threads never cease to confuse the hell out of me lol


blakep82 - 19/6/09 at 05:48 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Steve G
Terminating the contracts of those illegally striking and telling them to reapply if they actually want their jobs?? The strikers didnt turn up for work so deserved to get sacked in my eyes.


theres plenty of folk after jobs, if them lot don't want them... move over


Steve G - 19/6/09 at 05:49 PM

Some enlightenment for you chaps who dont watch the news.


Steve G - 19/6/09 at 05:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
theres plenty of folk after jobs, if them lot don't want them... move over


Absolutely mate - finding enough qualified to do the job straight away wont be so easy but i'm sure there will be loads of CV's landing on Total's doorstep from all over the country over the weekend.


theconrodkid - 19/6/09 at 05:55 PM

the way i see it is,total is a french co so expect them to behave like this,some were made redundant then foreigners (cheap labour) was hired to replace them (illegal),they want all the expensive locals out so they can use cheap bussed in foreign labour.
i have worked at an oil terminal and i doubt you could get those with the necessary skills and paperwork at any street corner,this must have been planned,i hope total get shafted !


Jon Ison - 19/6/09 at 06:04 PM

I tend to lean towards Conrods comments on this from what I've seen and read.


JoelP - 19/6/09 at 06:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by theconrodkid
the way i see it is,total is a french co so expect them to behave like this,some were made redundant then foreigners (cheap labour) was hired to replace them (illegal),they want all the expensive locals out so they can use cheap bussed in foreign labour.
i have worked at an oil terminal and i doubt you could get those with the necessary skills and paperwork at any street corner,this must have been planned,i hope total get shafted !


anyone made redundant could claim compensation if their position became available again and they werent offered it, within 3 months. This would've been the most suitable solution, especially with a massive union behind you. Wildcat striking, to me, is a dangerous rocking of the boat when people know it is an employers market. It seems to be a risky approach that has backfired for now.


deezee - 19/6/09 at 07:46 PM

Working next-door at Conoco Phillips Oil Refinery, I've never surprised at the attitude of some contractors. They picketed outside shouting abuse at my workforce and throwing stuff at our vans cos we went to work... on a site thats not even striking???

Our company works internationally and I quite happily send our small teams of 10 men all over the world to undertake skilled jobs. So I've not bothered if some (not lots, but some) foreign workers are working in the UK.

What I hate is the stupid strikers standing on thier soap box, wearing chinese made clothes, eating food produced in Spain and driving a French car, telling me that British Jobs are at risk.

Perhaps if these thousands of construction workers bought British products we wouldn't be here. I know they weren't there when my industry lost its union and was flooded with Portuguese workers.


Dangle_kt - 19/6/09 at 07:52 PM

I bet the contractor will end up with a pile of law suits to fight through.

horrible business.


Jon Ison - 19/6/09 at 09:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by deezee
Working next-door at Conoco Phillips Oil Refinery, I've never surprised at the attitude of some contractors. They picketed outside shouting abuse at my workforce and throwing stuff at our vans cos we went to work... on a site thats not even striking???

Our company works internationally and I quite happily send our small teams of 10 men all over the world to undertake skilled jobs. So I've not bothered if some (not lots, but some) foreign workers are working in the UK.

What I hate is the stupid strikers standing on thier soap box, wearing chinese made clothes, eating food produced in Spain and driving a French car, telling me that British Jobs are at risk.

Perhaps if these thousands of construction workers bought British products we wouldn't be here. I know they weren't there when my industry lost its union and was flooded with Portuguese workers.



Fair point well put, I'm now back wobbling on the fence.


Peteff - 19/6/09 at 10:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
theres plenty of folk after jobs, if them lot don't want them... move over


I'm glad you weren't in my court when I was at work, we'd all be working 90 hours a week for 30p an hour with no holidays if that mentality prevailed.


splitrivet - 19/6/09 at 11:17 PM

Total couldnt do this in France be it right or wrong, thier labour laws are heavily in favour of the worker not that there are many people working in France most are travail en le gauche ie claiming dole and working on the side.
Cheers,
Bob


Jasper - 20/6/09 at 09:22 AM

Kinda with Jon on this one, I think in the UK we've been had too much of an open door policy. I know we need a certain amount of foreign and seasonal labour in this country, but we seem to do very little to protect skilled jobs.

It's a bit like this situation in Belfast with the Romanians getting a hard time. What the hell are Romanians doing in Belfast anyway? I can't imagine there's a great surplus of jobs there.

If your an economic migrant like the vast majority of immigrants are, then you've got to expect some grief from the locals, especially in a recession.
Can you imagine if a large contingent of Brits went to live in Romania and took jobs there, I bet the locals would have something to say about it!