Originally posted by emsfactory
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Someone drew a massive cock on it though...............
I can relate to that. We now have a six foot ira slogan on our building. Oh and apparently Mcdowal is a thief. The rest is all gibberish.
right, after being awoken at 4 am this morning by3 little scrotes braking into the garage, i now need to beef up security and fit a new door!
anyone know how secure roller doors are over the up and over type?, and is electric or manual the best option?
any other seciruty ideas?
cheers
Ray
240v direct to the door will work.
I got a garage anchor that bolts deep into the floor and holds the door down, only way in now is to cut the whole door off
I would say roller shutters are easier to break into as they are harder to beef up!
Just try to break injto your own place and see how easy it is. What sort of building is it? It's fruitless making the door secure if it's an
asbestos garage or the roof is a but flimsy!
I personaly like the idea of the roller door, padlocked to the ground along with steel side door and bars over the windows.
Just make life harder for the bastards.
Hope you didn't loose too much.
Mike.
i've got a standard up and over door, reinforced with a steel angle frame, on the inside, and a couple of these into the ground, and into the up
and ocer mechanism on the sides.
i think there meant to be fitted on the outside of the door, as the ones i got came with a big steel shield, but i put them inside, so the shootbolts
pass though the doors frame into the ground
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thanks for the info fellas, its in integral garagem so pretty secure apart from the door, but that also means there's no other acces into the
garage other than the front door
nib, nice idea, but i'd probably forget to turn it off and end up frying myself!
Ray
As far as roller doors go, there is a big difference between lower quality doors and a premier insulated door such as SeceuroGlide, but unfortunately
there is a big cost difference.
On a single width door using the thickest SeceuroGlide section door you would have to ram raid it to get in.
Electric all the way its worth the extra plus also the locking systems are different between manual/electric.
But expect to pay £800 ish for a electric door plus fitting, but fit it yourself- if you can build a car you can fit a roller door.
Roger
scumbags - we should be allowed to batter them around the head with a baseball bat. As said - really hope they didnt get away with anything.
Have you got a security light fitted? Seems the obvious first step and is often enough to make the scum look for an easier target.
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Originally posted by RickRick
i've got a standard up and over door, reinforced with a steel angle frame, on the inside, and a couple of these into the ground, and into the up and ocer mechanism on the sides.
i think there meant to be fitted on the outside of the door, as the ones i got came with a big steel shield, but i put them inside, so the shootbolts pass though the doors frame into the ground
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-HIGH-SECURITY-GARAGE-DOOR-DEAD-LOCKS-PARTS-SPARES_W0QQitemZ380115844342QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Home_Garden_Door_Accessories_LE?h ash=item5880ab7cf6&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A1%7C66%3A4%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A200
[Edited on 20/6/09 by MakeEverything]
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Originally posted by MakeEverything
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Originally posted by Steve G
scumbags - we should be allowed to batter them around the head with a baseball bat.
You can can't you? Since Tony Martin shot that pikie as the ran away after robbing him, i think the law changed in that you can use "reasonable force".
That doesnt mean battering someone with a baseball bat, but if (for example) you find a cat burglar in your bedroom, or even upstairs and you can see a weapon of sorts, then reasonable force would be to defend yourself and family to fight off an attack.
"Well your honour, he came at me with a knife, so i had to defend myself as i was terrified for the safety of myself and my family"
Having approached the subject at my Ju-Jitsu club, my instructor said that if someone was making a clear attempt on your life, then it would be reasonable force to take to use Ju-Jitsu to stop that attack. This has been proven in the past on a number of different case, however - heres the clincher.
The definition of "Reasonable Force" is so subjective, you will be at the mercy of the jury or magistrate.
Prevention is the best method. I strengthened the frame of the door, the frame of the garage, and made it so tight to open (draft prevention) with draft excluders etc, it makes a hell of a noise to open.
I work mate of mine rents a lock-up garage away from his house in a block of council garages. It was often getting broken into by bored teenagers
(arseholes).
I crafted a bar that was made out of 2" box section that was about knee-high and dropped into a bracket on either side of the door frame. Then I
used two of those doorframe deadbolts to secure the bottom of the door to the bar. From the outside, all you could see were two 8mm holes where the
deadbolt star keys went in. I could have used two 5-lever deadbolts for more security.
The garage door already had a decent fixing to the top and side of the frame once locked and the little tinkers only ever tried to bend the
bottom/corners of the door to get in. My bar stopped them from doing this.
Five years later and it's never been broken into. Someone drew a massive cock on it though...............
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Someone drew a massive cock on it though...............
if it attached to your house, and it sounds like it is, can you get your garage doors added in to you house alarm if you have one.
our alarm is one of the old wired type (wired IR sensors etc) but the guy came round to service it and said he could add in the garage wirelessly, so
we'll have sensors on both doors, and an new ariel put in the house for £130
buy a dog, not to stick in the garage but to wake up and bark if it hears a noise.
i have a golden retriever and hes awake the second someone touched the gravel outside.
mind i do also live in gods waiting ground so its very quiet
If the door is not in regular use like ours isn't I simply drilled holes at the bottom either side thru the door and frame and slide a bar through, I have also done the same at the top.
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Originally posted by emsfactory
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Someone drew a massive cock on it though...............
I can relate to that. We now have a six foot ira slogan on our building. Oh and apparently Mcdowal is a thief. The rest is all gibberish.
I had the local scum trying to get in mine about 6 x years ago.
The following morning after repairing the side door I made an internal gate made out of inch box and 12mm steel bars.
Now I have to open external door, disarm the alarm, then remove said gate which is padlocked in place.
I also bought a baby monitor. (one end in garage, the other in bedroom).
Oh, and last but not least, I bought a baseball bat from Argos, which after a quick knock about with a friends kids, now lives under my bed!!!
(knocked a ball about, not kids! oh and bat lives under bed, not kids).
In a sick sort of way, I am almost disappointed that they have not been back!!!
cheers fellas, they didn;t actually get it cos the alarm is wired to the garage door aswell, so fortunately haven't see whats in there.
looked at a few "garage" roller doors and to be honest haven;t been too impressed with any of them (even the secoruglide seemed to flex
quite a bit)
got in touch with a local company who make security shutters for the likes of comet etc, and they are making me a one off electric remote controlled
one powder coated in white for a touch over £600 supply only
cheers
Ray
a friend of mine has his garage doors and the wire mesh on the windows
all wired to an electric fence jobby
these
today i was talking to a chap who has just had his workshop door reinforced after a break in
they came back last night wih a ladder and smashed through the asbestos roof
so today he was making a cage to go inside the workshop for all his tools etc.
what a lovely world we live in
I have a fire extingisher in my bed room .... seems most fires happen in the house and on my fire warden training course I was told its good practice
to have an extinguisher in your bedroom.
So .... when ever i hear a noise I go downstairs with it ..... if there is anyone in hte house they're getting a face full of powder and i'm
calling the police. It will be easy enough to identify them. They'll be covered in white powder looking guilty as hell!
(i'm a coward otherwise before someone suggests hitting them with it)
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Originally posted by MakeEverything
The definition of "Reasonable Force" is so subjective, you will be at the mercy of the jury or magistrate.
'Reasonable force' is subjective and is dependent on circumstance. As far as I am concerned, I will always use 'reasonable force' and as long as I keep saying at the time I was making decisions about what I was doing it was reasonable to me, I think you are in a fairly strong position with the rozzers. If it gets to court, its down to your peers to decide and then its a different game all together.