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Help on brake cap with symbol?
AdrianH - 23/7/09 at 10:43 PM

I have the typical Sierra brake reservoir This type with the yellow cap in the centre.

brakecap
brakecap


I am trying to discover if there is a Ford centre cap that has the brake fluid symbol on the yellow bit to remove one of the jobs for IVA.

Perhaps another cap may fit I am just not sure, say the mk3 Mondeo one would fit?

I have searched ebay for potential answers looking through the car parts etc. Does anyone know what may do?

Adrian

[Edited on 23-7-09 by AdrianH]


austin man - 23/7/09 at 10:58 PM

draw it on with a cd marker pen. or have a local graphics company print you a sticker


dave-69isit - 23/7/09 at 11:31 PM

get to the scrappy rovers had them on the 2oo 4000 600 just pop over the threads on cap


jack_t - 23/7/09 at 11:41 PM

we didnt need the symbol on it for Sva


blakep82 - 24/7/09 at 12:23 AM

can't find any requirement for having a brake symbol marked on it (theres not even a requirement for a brake fluid warning light)


15.
A fluid reservoir cap must be present and secure.
16.
It must be possible to check the fluid relative to the manufacturer’s specified minimum level on all brake fluid reservoirs by the actual fluid level being visible through a transparent section of the reservoir, with the minimum level marked permanently on to this section. As an alternative, a red warning lamp (see figure 3) must be capable of illuminating


Mix - 24/7/09 at 12:44 AM

Hi

Read on .........

17.
The type of fluid to be used in the hydraulic transmission of braking systems must be identified in accordance with ISO standard 9128-1987. The relevant symbol according to Figure 1 or 2 must be affixed in a visible position in indelible form within 100 mm of the filling ports of the fluid reservoirs, additional information may be provided by the manufacturer.

Regards Mick

[Edited on 24/7/09 by Mix]


Mix - 24/7/09 at 12:49 AM

And .........

19. The hydraulic system must be fitted with a red warning lamp, sensitive to line pressure and capable of signalling the failure of any part of the hydraulic system as soon as the brake is applied and remaining lit as long as the failure exists (with the ignition switched on). As an alternative, the warning lamp must be sensitive to the reservoir fluid level, providing the reservoir is directly connected to supply the pressure side of the master cylinder when the piston is in the “brakes off” position, so that a failure of either part of a split system would result in a continuous draining of the reservoir fluid when the control is released (see note 2 and 3).
20.
The hydraulic system failure warning lamp must be secure, operational, visible during daylight and darkness from the driving position, identifiable (i.e. labelled in a recognised form – see diagram 1 for an example) and fitted with a “test facility” that enables its operation to be checked from the driving position without opening the reservoir.

Regards Mick


blakep82 - 24/7/09 at 12:52 AM

my mistake


Macbeast - 24/7/09 at 07:13 AM

There's a marketing opportunity for someone to produce decals for brake reservoir, brake fluid etc


AdrianH - 24/7/09 at 07:21 AM

Limited market but a market, I will have to check rover and other caps ASAP.

Adrian


mistergrumpy - 24/7/09 at 09:19 AM

Car Builder Solutions here. Just stick it to the bulkhead within 100mm of the reservoir cap.


ashg - 24/7/09 at 12:27 PM

cbs didnt hang around getting those in.


iank - 24/7/09 at 01:18 PM

I've just put a pdf on the IVA section (can't post attachments in this section) which I hope should be useful to anyone who want's to DIY their reservoir cap marking.

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=118178


jollygreengiant - 24/7/09 at 03:29 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mix
And .........

19. The hydraulic system must be fitted with a red warning lamp, sensitive to line pressure and capable of signalling the failure of any part of the hydraulic system as soon as the brake is applied and remaining lit as long as the failure exists (with the ignition switched on). As an alternative, the warning lamp must be sensitive to the reservoir fluid level, providing the reservoir is directly connected to supply the pressure side of the master cylinder when the piston is in the “brakes off” position, so that a failure of either part of a split system would result in a continuous draining of the reservoir fluid when the control is released (see note 2 and 3).
20.
The hydraulic system failure warning lamp must be secure, operational, visible during daylight and darkness from the driving position, identifiable (i.e. labelled in a recognised form – see diagram 1 for an example) and fitted with a “test facility” that enables its operation to be checked from the driving position without opening the reservoir.

Regards Mick


The way I read that, is that you would need TWO in line pressure switches in your IVA brake system (diagonal split being required now I believe) as well as the fluid level switch as it is possible to have a failure mode where pressure is lost but not fluid. (Vauxall master cylinder reversed seal syndrome).


iank - 24/7/09 at 03:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by jollygreengiant
quote:
Originally posted by Mix
And .........

19. The hydraulic system must be fitted with a red warning lamp, sensitive to line pressure and capable of signalling the failure of any part of the hydraulic system as soon as the brake is applied and remaining lit as long as the failure exists (with the ignition switched on). As an alternative, the warning lamp must be sensitive to the reservoir fluid level, providing the reservoir is directly connected to supply the pressure side of the master cylinder when the piston is in the “brakes off” position, so that a failure of either part of a split system would result in a continuous draining of the reservoir fluid when the control is released (see note 2 and 3).
20.
The hydraulic system failure warning lamp must be secure, operational, visible during daylight and darkness from the driving position, identifiable (i.e. labelled in a recognised form – see diagram 1 for an example) and fitted with a “test facility” that enables its operation to be checked from the driving position without opening the reservoir.

Regards Mick


The way I read that, is that you would need TWO in line pressure switches in your IVA brake system (diagonal split being required now I believe) as well as the fluid level switch as it is possible to have a failure mode where pressure is lost but not fluid. (Vauxall master cylinder reversed seal syndrome).


Diagonal split is NOT required, despite what one of the magazines read the rules to mean.

See minitici's post in this thread.
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=91800


AdrianH - 24/7/09 at 06:32 PM

Thanks for the posts and ideas