Im looking to change my tin top and fancy a rover 75.I looked at an 02 plate tourer with 135000 miles but no service history although it is up at
£1990 so cheap, it is being sold by a local dealer that moves on main dealer PXs.
On asking about the service history he said there is none but it has been HPI checked etc.It drives well and im tempted by it but worried by the lack
of history, main concern is the items like clutch and turbo most other things i think could be sorted reasonably easily bearing in mind i never take
my cars to a garage apart from for an MOT would this be possible with a newer more complicated car?
My other option is to just get another cheap ie sub £1000 rover 600 or a 25 or 45 diesel and save some more for a newer 75 with history.
Any suggestions?
Paul
Make sure you get all the keys. New ones are only available through BMW as the key code is stored on a BMW server in Germany. I'm guessing it
is big money to add new keys.
I know a few people who really like 75s and the BMW diesel engine is popular too.
that seems very expensive tbh
I paid £1600 for a 50k mint 6 year old Almera with full Nissan service history for missy just a few weeks ago.
With a Diesel I'd be concerned about the fuel pump going at the mileage, one of the guys at work recently scrapped his 407 due to the cost of
replacing it
Is it a case of the history being lost or just not existing?
If you know where it came from you might be able to check some history - i.e. did a local garage service it at some point?
Also, any particular reason for the Rover fascination? Not knocking the them, but there are lots of other cheap and reliable cars out there.
Im not sure if the history has been genuinly lost or conveniently lost, It does seem they have some fuel pump problems ive just been reading the rover
forum and the in tank pumps seem a problem.
I have considered other makes, but have had a 600 diesel for the last 7 years and it has been a very good car and Rover trim and equipment levels seem
to be better than fords or vauxhalls etc. I have thought of looking at Bmw, or Vw passats etc but not had any experience of them.Definitely want a
diesel as nowadays cant seee much point in a thirsty petrol tin top.
How many keys should it have? is there as red master key like the older models?
Paul.
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Originally posted by smart51
Make sure you get all the keys. New ones are only available through BMW as the key code is stored on a BMW server in Germany. I'm guessing it is big money to add new keys.
I know a few people who really like 75s and the BMW diesel engine is popular too.
I have heard of one 75 diesel that did alomost 3 times that mileage before the taxi driver owner traded it in for another.
The variant of bmw engine is slightly diffrent from that used by BMW and Land-Rover --- the Rover engine has fixed turbo vanes which make it more
reliable.
At 2002 it could still have the 115hp version the engine rather than the 131bp ---- only difference is software.
The engine compartment fuel pump can fail but it is rare, I am not sure of the cost --- you can check the Rimmer Brothers web site. A more common
loss of fuel pressure on pre-204 cars was the in tank fuel filler falling apart but modst cars will have been modified by now.
Apart from the usual MAS sensor these engines just don't go wrong --- they just don't, I have heard of a couple of crank or cam sensor
failures and one engine with leaking injectors but that is is all.
Keys cost 150pounds each this will let you unlock and drive the car however if you want the key programmed to the remote locking add 40 to 60
pounds.
If it is an automatic walk away from it --- Rover used the same JATCO gearbox used by Jaguar, Toyota, Ford and Nissan ----- although it seems to
give less trouble in the 75 basically it is not reliable over 80,000 miles.
The manual gearbox is the Getrag 5 speed also used by many other manufacturers, I have never heard of one failling apart from 1 car with broken
gearchange cable.
I would look for evidence the clutch has been changed, the clutch is a very expensive item to replace usually involves new hydraulics and a new dual
mass flywheel.
Chaissis wise the the diesel is more prone to broken springs than the lighter engined cars. Springs can be found for about 40 pounds each
Body wise the door locks are the only known issue ---- check the central locking workks --- 1 push of the blipper unlocks the drivers dor only 2
pushes the rest of the doors (but deallers can alter in software). The Door lock mechanism is quite delicate and it is quite common to find the
drivers door won't remote unlock --- cost 100 quid for new part or 25 to 40 off ebay.
No major replacements are on the service scheduled for the diesel --- oil change interval is 15,000 miles oil should be fully synthertic ----
looks for signs of frequent changes.
Brakes wise the only problem is they all have lousy hand brakes ---- must be done using official BMW-Rover method and has to be adjusted inside the
rear disc-drum which usually entails removing the disc-drum unit.
Tyre wear on both outside edges is normal on these cars --- less of problem on cars with 15" wheels.
Of course you could look for a low mileage petrol 75 and convert to LPG ---depending on your distance from a cheap lpg ststion should be a lot
cheaper to run the diesel.
[Edited on 29/7/09 by britishtrident]
i wouldnt pay £1900 .
they do have fuel pump issues , and if the clutch goes - its dual mass - so you might aswell replace that at the same time at a cost i can imagine is
over £500 .
if theres no service history , walk away .
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Originally posted by Volvorsport
i wouldnt pay £1900 .
they do have fuel pump issues , and if the clutch goes - its dual mass - so you might aswell replace that at the same time at a cost i can imagine is over £500 .
if theres no service history , walk away .
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Originally posted by paulf
Im not sure if the history has been genuinly lost or conveniently lost, It does seem they have some fuel pump problems ive just been reading the rover forum and the in tank pumps seem a problem.
I have considered other makes, but have had a 600 diesel for the last 7 years and it has been a very good car and Rover trim and equipment levels seem to be better than fords or vauxhalls etc. I have thought of looking at Bmw, or Vw passats etc but not had any experience of them.Definitely want a diesel as nowadays cant seee much point in a thirsty petrol tin top.
I've just bought a 47k 75 CDT tourer and I love it.
It cost me £3500 and has no significant faults
I don't doubt that there will be some expenses over the next few years.
If I sell it in a few years, it will still be a low mileage car. My worry about buying a high mileage car is that when you sell it it will be a
mega-mileage car and worth little.
Decided to give this one a miss , i have been looking on autotrader and it seems theres plenty about at good prices.Im not to worried about resale
value as I tend to buy cars and run them till there on there last legs.My present car is a 600 diesel with 238000 on the clock, it had about 170,000
and almost full service history when i bought it 7 or 8 years ago , so im going to look for a car with high trim level ie leather etc and good service
history but be prepared to accept a higher mileage to get a well maintained example.There seems to be a lot about with limited or no service history
.
Paul
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Originally posted by JonBowden
I've just bought a 47k 75 CDT tourer and I love it.
It cost me £3500 and has no significant faults
I don't doubt that there will be some expenses over the next few years.
If I sell it in a few years, it will still be a low mileage car. My worry about buying a high mileage car is that when you sell it it will be a mega-mileage car and worth little.
Just got carried away on Ebay and bid on and won a 1999 75 diesel Connesier with leather and all extras for £670 the only thing is its done 218000 so
not sure if im going to regret it or not.I suppose I can always trade it in or put it back on E Bay or brake it for spares. Going to have a look and
arrange when i can collect it later.
Paul
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Originally posted by britishtrident
Apart from the usual MAS sensor these engines just don't go wrong --- they just don't,