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bass - 11/8/02 at 07:07 PM

why do iocost racers race with head,side and tail lamps when you dont need them for a MOT?


chrisg - 11/8/02 at 07:23 PM

What makes you think you don't need lights for the mot?

But then I suppose you don't need them to TAKE the test - only to PASS!!

Cheers

Chris


merlin - 11/8/02 at 08:09 PM

According to a mate who had a buggy passed through MOT with no lights there is a clause for 'day light use only'. If a light IS fitted it MUST work though. Obviously brake lights are essential! As for racing, I have no idea!


Rick - 11/8/02 at 08:18 PM

I had a motor bike once that had an MOT but no lights.
The rule applied because the bike was registered before 1972. The same could apply to cars.

Rick


chrisg - 11/8/02 at 08:51 PM

And this of course:-

Extract from 750 MC Locost series regulations

5.10.1 Exterior lighting : All exterior lighting including headlights, side, Tail and indicators must be fitted and functioning to MOT requirements.

Cheers

Chris


Rick - 12/8/02 at 11:30 AM

The key word here is FITTED.

If the car was registered before 1972 then it would pass an MOT without lights and be eligable to race.
Not many Locosts registered before 1972 though
Only those made by Mr chapman

Rick


bass - 12/8/02 at 05:37 PM

age dont matter, the mot maual says you dont need lights if the car is used in day time only, lights must be masked up, or wiring removed, or no lights at all. my locost is pre 72 reg and i built it, free road tax.


stephen_gusterson - 12/8/02 at 05:46 PM

how can you have a 30 year old locost when the book came out just a few years back.....

you must have some other 7 replica....


Rick - 12/8/02 at 07:16 PM

Probably a '72 Mk1 Escort base. Clever!

Anyone selling a 72 Escort?

Rick


bass - 12/8/02 at 08:21 PM

no none of those two


chrisg - 12/8/02 at 08:35 PM

I'll print this once more.

5.10.1 Exterior lighting : All exterior lighting including headlights, side, Tail and indicators must be fitted and functioning to MOT requirements.


I think the words MUST BE FITTED sort of solve this one 2002 or 1902 the regulations state that the lights MUST BE FITTED no exceptions.

Cheers

Chris


bass - 12/8/02 at 08:53 PM

1/1 MOT manuel s/tail h/lamps not required for vec used in daylight. must be masked or wire removed or lights remove. plus you dont need a telltale lamp for ind if you can see them working from drivers seat


chrisg - 12/8/02 at 10:04 PM

Bass mate,

I'm not getting through am I?

Road MOT fine, you don't need lights

The Locost race Regulations require them to be fitted and working.

This is why the racers fit head and tail lights, the car would fail scrutineering without them.

which I think answers your original question.

Hopefully

Cheers

Chris


bass - 12/8/02 at 10:58 PM

no it says in the rules that the car must pass a mot , whats it say about carbs?


Metal Hippy™ - 12/8/02 at 11:22 PM

If Chris is quoting the rules when he says...

5.10.1 Exterior lighting : All exterior lighting including headlights, side, Tail and indicators must be fitted and functioning to MOT requirements.

...then surely the lights have to be working?

If they don't then they wouldn't have the word FUNCTIONING in that bit.


bass - 12/8/02 at 11:37 PM

but you dont need lights for MOT


Metal Hippy™ - 12/8/02 at 11:39 PM

The point appears to be:

The level that those cars that require lights has to reach in an MOT is the level you have to be at to qualify to race in the Locost series.

It really isn't difficult to grasp if you think about it.


chrisg - 13/8/02 at 08:29 PM

I'm losing the will to live....