Is anybody else rather suprised by everyones reaction to the way tabloids have been behaving for the last 30 years? I'm shocked that people didn't realise this stuff was going on. How did everyone think these tabloids always got they're stories?

I was a paparazzi for a little while whilst trying to start a career in photojournalism back in the nineties. I got arrested outside Patsy and Liams house and taken to Marylybone for questions for bloody hours. The papers clearly got all the details from the police/DVLA - how does everyone think they get all this information that we can't get? You think the police/DVLA/Govt agencies give this information away for free?

A mate upstairs from me when I lived in east London around the same time worked as a hack for the NotW, he always kept rubber gloves and spare bin bags in the back of his car for when we went through peoples rubbish - the stories he used to tell about how they got their information were amazing.

If you want to blame anyone for this DON'T blame the newspapers, blame anyone who buys them and loves reading all the scandal and gossip. Their just supplying our insatiable demand for this crap.

Anyway, rant over, back to work.

It is good to see that the NoTW advertisers are dumping them left, right and centre...

...that'll probably have more effect than public outrage! (Although it is the outrage that's influencing the big advertisers)

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i agree, listening to all this on the radio yesterday, i wasn't so much annoyed with notw, but with everyone else for not realising it goes on!
notw have got papers to sell, they'll do whatever they can to get the story, journalists have always been known for these type of tactics as far as i'm concerned.

"It is good to see that the NoTW advertisers are dumping them left, right and centre..."
then companies should be removing all their advertising from all newspapers, its just that notw got caught this time lol

i heard all this on radio 1's news reports yesterday out in the garage, where do they get their news from? recylced from other sources? i bet a lot over the years came from notw, makes bbc just as guilty i'm sure

this same thing of 'phone hacking'' comes up every few months, usually politicians, its nothing new to me.
wonder if the sun will have a story on it today lol

Hardly proper hacking anyway is it? You phone someone's voice-mail and try their default password!

I'm amazed it's even illegal!

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Originally posted by James
Hardly proper hacking anyway is it? You phone someone's voice-mail and try their default password!

I'm amazed it's even illegal!

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Originally posted by Jasper
Is anybody else rather suprised by everyones reaction to the way tabloids have been behaving for the last 30 years? I'm shocked that people didn't realise this stuff was going on. How did everyone think these tabloids always got they're stories?

I was a paparazzi for a little while whilst trying to start a career in photojournalism back in the nineties. I got arrested outside Patsy and Liams house and taken to Marylybone for questions for bloody hours. The papers clearly got all the details from the police/DVLA - how does everyone think they get all this information that we can't get? You think the police/DVLA/Govt agencies give this information away for free?

A mate upstairs from me when I lived in east London around the same time worked as a hack for the NotW, he always kept rubber gloves and spare bin bags in the back of his car for when we went through peoples rubbish - the stories he used to tell about how they got their information were amazing.

If you want to blame anyone for this DON'T blame the newspapers, blame anyone who buys them and loves reading all the scandal and gossip. Their just supplying our insatiable demand for this crap.

Anyway, rant over, back to work.

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It not just letting themselves into your voicemail , they have been actively intercepting calls aswell.


Gutter journalists will use lots of covert methods of gathering dross for their cause, not just going through your bin.



If they mike up to catch out John Lesley shagging, then as far as Im concerned they can and will apply that technology to gather their dross, in the name of "public interest" with anyone.


And if cops have been on the take , which it appears it has - then send them to jail, everyone knows data protection breaches are a huge no no.....


Its about time there was some morally based guidance for these pricks to adhere to, we all know which newspapers are full of crap, ie Jordans breasts got bigger this month, David Camerons cousins uncle got caught drink driving.



Its utter crap reading, bit like watching the BBC news, its the same drivel produced everyday from god knows how many surveys..



I have criticised my wife since I met her, 2 degrees and runs a £45,000,000 business but reads the NOTW - EH ? She wont be reading it anymore after this.




NOTW - will be busy today, burning office PCs and burning anything incriminating, well they can look forward to whats left of the MEt coming to lock them up.



The whole story unfolding is no surprise, but it doesnt make it any less appalling or vile, they disgust me beyond belief.

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Originally posted by Jasper
Is anybody else rather suprised by everyones reaction to the way tabloids have been behaving for the last 30 years? I'm shocked that people didn't realise this stuff was going on. How did everyone think these tabloids always got they're stories?

I was a paparazzi for a little while whilst trying to start a career in photojournalism back in the nineties. I got arrested outside Patsy and Liams house and taken to Marylybone for questions for bloody hours. The papers clearly got all the details from the police/DVLA - how does everyone think they get all this information that we can't get? You think the police/DVLA/Govt agencies give this information away for free?

A mate upstairs from me when I lived in east London around the same time worked as a hack for the NotW, he always kept rubber gloves and spare bin bags in the back of his car for when we went through peoples rubbish - the stories he used to tell about how they got their information were amazing.

If you want to blame anyone for this DON'T blame the newspapers, blame anyone who buys them and loves reading all the scandal and gossip. Their just supplying our insatiable demand for this crap.

Anyway, rant over, back to work.

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I don't agree. Firstly you are neglecting the fact that anyone who regularly reads the TNOW is probably too stupid to suspect how these people get their stories. Secondly just because there is demand doesn't make dodgy supply practice acceptable. Should I not buy a pair of trainers in case there is abrand out there that sill uses sweat shops? I do blame the newspapers - scumbags.

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If you want to blame anyone for this DON'T blame the newspapers, blame anyone who buys them and loves reading all the scandal and gossip. Their just supplying our insatiable demand for this crap.

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there's a difference between drug pushers and drug dealer! But thats another debate.

What about people who buy the NOTW to collect the sun vouchers for a cheap holiday?! Its a complete rag but i like cheap hols!

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i heard all this on radio 1's news reports yesterday out in the garage, where do they get their news from? recylced from other sources?

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there's a difference between drug pushers and drug dealer! But thats another debate.

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The child pornography is a good example actually, you certainly wouldn't just blame the person taking the pictures, you would give equal blame to the sick f**kers downloading them.

I certainly don't condone anything the newspapers do that's morally objectionable and illegal, find them all, drag them through the press like they did to everyone else and lock them up if necessary. I had a few dealings with tabloid picture editors and they were always rather objectionable people, part of the job I suppose.

I just hate the double standards of people who buy tabloids, then get on their high horse when they find out they didn't get all these amazing stories by normal decent means.


And the term 'drug pushers', that always makes me laugh. I presume you would include off-licenses, cigarette makers and companies that produce alco-pop style drinks in this description. I've spent a lot of time around the alternative scene in Brighton over the years and have never heard of anyone having drugs 'pushed' on them. I think you'll find it's peer pressure and curiosity not some shady guy at the school gates that gets people taking drugs.

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Originally posted by blakep82
i heard all this on radio 1's news reports yesterday out in the garage, where do they get their news from? recylced from other sources?

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^^ you forgot to add "rewritten for ages 6 to 12" - can't stand radio 1 anyway but the news is shockingly bad

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there is a whole separate debate about the BBC to be had......



well worthy of another thread.

Well, that's it !
No more News of the Screws

My parents ( both schoolteachers ) used to get it . Until I learned to read, when they suddenly stopped it

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Well, that's it !
No more News of the Screws

My parents ( both schoolteachers ) used to get it . Until I learned to read, when they suddenly stopped it

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Breaking news - NOTW is now no more

I Love this forum!! Its shows how baised peoples arguments can be based on past and present connection with the topic being discussed. Hence why I think Juries can never work properly. I digress, now based on my bias, How can anybody justify such invasive and criminal actions by calling it business? I have always wondered about the readers as well. Whilst I agree to investigative journalism about important things, I believe peoples personal lives should be left off tabloids.

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The reason NoTW is closing down couldn't be to do with the fact that it's been making a loss for years?
Or that Murdoch is hoping to deflect criticism away from the staff he employs?
Or that Murdoch doesn't want to upset the government while he tries to get authority for buying a majority shareholding in Sky?
[/cynic mode]

I'm sure that the NOTW will re-emerge as The Sunday Sun, but I'm still delighted that the name will cease to exist as of next week.

Filthy rat-bag publication!

Hopefully The Sun, The Star, The Daily Mail, etc. will follow!

I heard on the radio that the press had surrounded the house belonging to one of the guys suspected of the hacking... the @rse came out and pleaded that his family's privacy be respected! What planet is he on!?

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....Or that Murdoch doesn't want to upset the government while he tries to get authority for buying a majority shareholding in Sky?

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I couldn't possibly care. I'm outraged that they've done this, I'm not surprised they've stooped low but this low? Jeez...

I would be really pee'd off but I know newspapers are dead

Don't buy them, never have, never will.

Its a shame for all the real workers, who will lose there jobs and who put an honest days work in, to be ruined by some egotistic twats, that proberly take home 100,000 a year

that saying, my personel view is, that all the sun, mirror notw type of comics, are exactly that, comics , or in other words childrens newspapers

We havnt bought a paper in 20 years, but when we did it was allways the express, but even that (20 years ago) became a comic, filled with inane shite and more adverts than ITV

steve

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....Or that Murdoch doesn't want to upset the government while he tries to get authority for buying a majority shareholding in Sky?

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You may care to think that is his reason. I, of course, couldn't possibly comment!

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Steve: I think even my own mother who got the Telegraph that much she pays for them yearly doesn't bother much these days

David: Is that off Yes Minister? I vaguely remember it (a touch before my time)

Am I the only one who thinks newspapers are a waste of resources in the modern world.The government tell us all to use less fuel and natural resources yet in the modern day when most people have internet and TV access we still waste resources on printing, distributing and disposing of news papers that are mostly publishing gossip and scandal about celebs etc. that most people couldn't care less about.
Paul

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David: Is that off Yes Minister? I vaguely remember it (a touch before my time)

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Am I the only one who thinks newspapers are a waste of resources in the modern world.The government tell us all to use less fuel and natural resources yet in the modern day when most people have internet and TV access we still waste resources on printing, distributing and disposing of news papers that are mostly publishing gossip and scandal about celebs etc. that most people couldn't care less about.
Paul

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I had a cynical thought while out this morning...

Suppose someone (government, civil service, rival business) didn't want Rupert Murdoch to take over BSkyB, but couldn't find any legal reason to block it.

What better way to throw a spanner in the works than to leak damaging info about one of his flagship newspapers? Then keep kicking the hornets' nest until his News Corporation is so discredited that Ofcom decide that they are not fit to take over Sky?

BSkyB's shares have already dropped, as the stock market have decided that the takeover is doubtful.

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Actually that's a good point, but I'd like to think if that was happening and all concerned were doing nothing wrong with phones then it would come out in court

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Originally posted by James
Hardly proper hacking anyway is it? You phone someone's voice-mail and try their default password!

I'm amazed it's even illegal!

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its a bit like when wi-fi was new, and you could get into someone elses internet as it was an unsecured one, going into their router settings and putting a password on it... can't do that so much any more, but there IS a new unsecured network appearing near my house.... wonder who's it is

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