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OT: Cost of bathroom
tegwin - 21/7/11 at 12:12 PM

Slighty OT... but.. Someone here might have some idea... Having never had a labourer in I am curious to know how much a pro would charge for this..

I am doing the work myself, but just wondered how much I am saving by not employing someone to do it for me..

Bathroom... approx 2x3m

Strip old tiles
Re-plaster where blown plaster has fallen off the walls
Tile and grout walls
Lay vinyl floor
fit toilet, basin
fit heated towel rail
paint

im guessing its a 5 day job for a pro...say working 8 hour days. 40 hours at £25? an hour.. so roughly £1000... does that sound about right?

blakep82 - 21/7/11 at 12:16 PM

probably about that, 18 months ago we had the bathroom, downstairs toilet, and a sort of en suite shower room done, think that was about £3k

fesycresy - 21/7/11 at 02:31 PM

£25 p/h is way low around here. £40 is more in line.

Interesting post as I'm doing the same now, slightly bigger, just over 3m x 3m.

No bath, but a walk in shower, all walls need to be plastered, new door frame , door, window, basically everything. I start gutting it Sunday.

Stott - 21/7/11 at 03:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by fesycresy
£25 p/h is way low around here. £40 is more in line.

Interesting post as I'm doing the same now, slightly bigger, just over 3m x 3m.

No bath, but a walk in shower, all walls need to be plastered, new door frame , door, window, basically everything. I start gutting it Sunday.


I'm doing it too, a 2x3.5 bathroom and a 2x2 ensuite only I need everything including soil and waste pipes! (change of room use)

I'm trying to accumulate bits running up to it as it's a lot of dough just for the items, 2 sinks, 2 bogs, 2 shower enclosures, 2 showers, 1 bath, 1 window (already got 1 new one in) lots of taps, tiles, etc etc

No wonder my car is crying............

tegwin - 21/7/11 at 04:55 PM

This is now my 3rd bathroom in different houses....

I have nothing to do with this company but have had brilliant service from them... really good prices too

http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/plumbing-supplies-5-0000



Dont forget that you dont need soil vent pipes anymore, you can get internal ones! Might save some hassle!

franky - 21/7/11 at 06:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by fesycresy
£25 p/h is way low around here. £40 is more in line.

Interesting post as I'm doing the same now, slightly bigger, just over 3m x 3m.

No bath, but a walk in shower, all walls need to be plastered, new door frame , door, window, basically everything. I start gutting it Sunday.


£40 and hour for a bathroom fitter!!?? I must be in the wrong game.

Its not a very skilled trade so £20 tops for a properly registered chap. When I had mine done I think it was £400 for a weeks work(cash).

JoelP - 21/7/11 at 07:32 PM

id agree with franky; £40 is more gas fitter rates than bathroom fitter. You might pay £40 for the first hour but £20 is closer thereafter. Im fitting a £75k kitchen at the min for £150 a day. Admittedly thats without any liability for product damage.

daniel mason - 21/7/11 at 07:50 PM

all depends how much you could make by doing your own job for the same ammount of time?
i mean if you could work extra hours at your work and make more money than the person doing your tiling etc.
you could easily get someone to do it for £15 an hour cash at nights and weekends and you get a professional job at the end of it. if things like tiling are not 100% right it can totally spoil a room

Blackbird Rush - 21/7/11 at 08:13 PM

Nearly finished my bathroom, knocked the bathroom and loo into one, full replaster walls & ceiling ( by a pro for £300)
Fully tiled, new floor & under floor heating , new suite & separate shower, replaced rads with towel warmers
Got plumber to alter the rad pipes and fit the warmers (£280)

Probably spent £3-4k on the fittings & materials did the rest of the work myself
Had quotes for the install (with me supplying the tiles, suite and brassware) that varied from £5k to £7k! Hense I did most of it myself.

Size is approx 2.5m x 3m

Taken a bit longer for me to finish though!

Stott - 23/7/11 at 09:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Tegwin



Dont forget that you dont need soil vent pipes anymore, you can get internal ones! Might save some hassle!


Yeah thanks I knew that but unfortunately I'm joining another wc into the original svp in the now ensuite, so it's a bit of a pig to get the fall right but am trying to avoid a second stack outside. My biggest headache are the bath and shower wastes. Trying to get them out is murder, I can do 1 shower but there is no facility for any further connection to the existing stack due to the boxing in of the branch with the floor joists, so I'm gonna have to go out the wall and down.

Does anyone know if I can run vented wastes vertically? I think I can from what ive read of the regs, as if there's a vent then it shouldn't pull the traps.

Any suggestions welcome!

Also, can you discharge a 1st floor bath into a bottle gully? I know ground floor is ok.

Cheers
Stott

Edit: don't know why it's all in italics! Stupid phone!

[Edited on 23/7/11 by Stott]

tegwin - 23/7/11 at 09:48 PM

I dont think I understand exactly what you are trying to do..

But.. if your soil pipe is plastic, can you not drill a hole in it in the right place and simply solvent weld an adaptor boss on to the pipe for your shower drain? Screwfix sell them....

Strontium Dog - 23/7/11 at 10:17 PM

quote:
Originally posted by tegwin



Dont forget that you dont need soil vent pipes anymore, you can get internal ones! Might save some hassle!


Unless you are the last vent on the line, then you do still need an external vent, or so my building inspector told me!

Stott - 25/7/11 at 06:07 PM

quote:
Originally posted by tegwin
I dont think I understand exactly what you are trying to do..

But.. if your soil pipe is plastic, can you not drill a hole in it in the right place and simply solvent weld an adaptor boss on to the pipe for your shower drain? Screwfix sell them....


I have to get a shower and a bath waste out somehow.

They can't join to the stack inside as it's an internal svp with only room for the existing boss connector and the soil from the wc all of which occupies more than the joist space in the floor as it is.

The pipes can go out of the wall and down the outside of the house to either an existing bottle gulley or the last 1.8m of svp which is external.

The runs are longer than the maximum lengths for unvented branch connections as stated in the building regs so they would have to be vented, crucially though they will have to run vertically down the outside of the house. You can't do this normally as the suction behind the water from emptying the bath or shower will pull the traps dry and let sewer gas into the house. What I was wondering is if it's ok for vertical runs with ventilation (I'm 99% sure it is) and whether it's ok to discharge it into a bottle gulley or does it have to go into the svp as the flow is too great for a gulley to handle.